Minutes interim-2010-iesg-15 2010-08-12 15:30
minutes-interim-2010-iesg-15-201008121530-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the August 12, 2010 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area
Stewart Bryant (Cisco) / Routing Area
Ralph Droms (Cisco) / Internet Area
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor liaison
Susan Hares / Scribe
David Harrington (HuaweiSymantec) / Transport Area
Glenn Kowack / RFC Series Editor
John Leslie / Scribe
Alexey Melnikov (Isode Limited) / Applications Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Tim Polk (NIST) / Security Area
Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area
Peter Saint-Andre (Cisco) / Applications Area
Robert Sparks (Tekelec) / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area
Sean Turner (IECA, Inc.) / Security Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

REGRETS
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Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
Gonzalo Camarillo / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison
Linda Dunbar / Scribe
Lars Eggert (Nokia) / Transport Area
Adrian Farrel (Huawei) / Routing Area
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
Olaf Kolkman (NLnet Labs) / IAB Chair
Barry Leiba / Scribe
Danny McPherson (Arbor Networks, Inc.) / IAB Liaison
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD


MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the July 15, 2010 Teleconference were approved.
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the July 15, 2010 Teleconferences were
approved.  The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public
archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the July 15, 2010 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
 o draft-ietf-behave-turn-ipv6-11.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-netboot-10.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-ipfix-export-per-sctp-stream-08.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-keyprov-pskc-09.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-keyprov-symmetrickeyformat-11.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-mboned-ipv4-uni-based-mcast-06.txt (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
 o draft-hoffman-tls-master-secret-input-03.txt (Experimental)
 o draft-iab-ipv6-nat-04.txt (Informational)
 o draft-ietf-bmwg-protection-term-09.txt (Informational)
 o draft-ietf-eai-mailinglist-07.txt (Experimental)
 o draft-ietf-hip-bone-07.txt (Experimental)
 o draft-ietf-hip-via-03.txt (Experimental)
 o draft-ietf-nsis-applicability-mobility-signaling-20.txt
   (Informational)
 o draft-mohali-diversion-history-info-07.txt (Informational)
 o draft-moriarty-post-inch-rid-transport-03.txt (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
 NONE

DELETED:
 NONE

IN PROGRESS:
 o Jari Arkko to add guidance on multi-Area work to the wiki.
 o Stewart Bryant and Adrian Farrel to discuss RFC 4020 Early Allocation
   procedures.
 o Lars Eggert to provide text to IANA for how to reflect
   inappropriately used TCP Option Numbers in the TCP Option Numbers
   registry.

NEW
 NONE

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Items
  o draft-ietf-ippm-spatial-composition-15
    Spatial Composition of Metrics (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 9
    Token: Lars Eggert

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ron Bonica, Stewart Bryant and Dan Romascanu.*

  o draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-14
    Mobile Ad Hoc Network (MANET) Neighborhood Discovery Protocol (NHDP)
    (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 9
    Token: Stewart Bryant

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Sean Turner.*

  o draft-ietf-behave-dns64-10
    DNS64: DNS extensions for Network Address Translation from IPv6
    Clients to IPv4 Servers (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 9
    Token: David Harrington

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Tim Polk.*

  o draft-ietf-behave-v6v4-xlate-stateful-12
    Stateful NAT64: Network Address and Protocol Translation from IPv6
    Clients to IPv4 Servers (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 9
    Token: David Harrington

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by David Harrington. The Secretariat will send a working
group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC
Editor Note.

  o draft-ietf-behave-address-format-09
    IPv6 Addressing of IPv4/IPv6 Translators (Proposed Standard) - 5 of
    9
    Token: David Harrington

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel and Alexey Melnikov.*

  o draft-ietf-isis-ipv6-te-07
    IPv6 Traffic Engineering in IS-IS (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 9
    Token: Stewart Bryant

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel and David Harrington.*

  o draft-ietf-behave-v6v4-xlate-20
    IP/ICMP Translation Algorithm (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 9
    Token: David Harrington

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko, Stewart Bryant, Alexey Melnikov and Tim
Polk.*

  o draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-reflect-octets-07
    TWAMP Reflect Octets and Symmetrical Size Features (Proposed
    Standard) - 8 of 9
    Token: Lars Eggert

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Peter Saint-Andre.*

  o draft-ietf-softwire-ds-lite-tunnel-option-03
    Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol for IPv6 (DHCPv6) Options for
    Dual- Stack Lite (Proposed Standard) - 9 of 9
    Token: Ralph Droms

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko, David Harrington, Alexey Melnikov and Peter
Saint-Andre.*

2.1.2 Returning Items
  o draft-ietf-tls-rfc4366-bis-10
    Transport Layer Security (TLS) Extensions: Extension Definitions
    (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 1
    Token: Sean Turner

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel, Alexey Melnikov and Peter Saint-Andre.*

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Items
  o draft-elie-nntp-list-additions-04
    Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) Additions to LIST Command
    (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 1
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alexey Melnikov on behalf of IANA.*

2.2.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Items

  o draft-ietf-ipsecme-roadmap-09
    IP Security (IPsec) and Internet Key Exchange (IKE) Document Roadmap
    (Informational) - 1 of 6
    Token: Sean Turner

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Sean Turner. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

  o draft-ietf-behave-v6v4-framework-09
    Framework for IPv4/IPv6 Translation (Informational) - 2 of 6
    Token: David Harrington

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-forces-applicability-09
    ForCES Applicability Statement (Informational) - 3 of 6
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-forces-implementation-report-02
    Implementation Report for ForCES (Informational) - 4 of 6
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Adrian Farrel. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

  o draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-07
    Basic Requirements for IPv6 Customer Edge Routers (Informational) -
    5 of 6
    Token: Ron Bonica

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-v6ops-isp-scenarios-00
    Emerging Service Provider Scenarios for IPv6 Deployment
    (Informational) - 6 of 6
    Token: Ron Bonica

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Document Action Announcement.

3.1.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Items
  o draft-presuhn-rfc2482-historic-02
    Deprecating Unicode Language Tag Characters: RFC 2482 is Historic
    (Informational) - 1 of 3
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an
individual submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-davis-u-langtag-ext-03
    BCP 47 Extension U (Informational) - 2 of 3
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Alexey Melnikov. The Secretariat will send an individual
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

  o draft-baker-v6ops-greynet-04
    IPv4 and IPv6 Greynets (Informational) - 3 of 3
    Token: Ron Bonica

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an
individual submission Document Action Announcement.

3.2.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor
3.3.1 New Items
  o draft-nir-ipsecme-childless-06
    A Childless Initiation of the IKE SA (Experimental) - 1 of 1
    Token: Sean Turner

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
Sean Turner will prepare a "no problem" message, and forward it to the
Secretariat to send to the RFC Editor.

3.3.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.3.3 For Action
  o draft-saito-mmusic-sdp-ike-07
    Media Description for IKE in the Session Description Protocol (SDP)
    (Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Russ Housley

The document was assigned to Robert Sparks for RFC 5742 review.

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
  o Port Control Protocol (pcp) - 1 of 2
    Token: Jari Arkko

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending the
addition of chairs and edits to the text of the charter to be prepared
by Jari Arkko.  The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

  o Authority-to-Citizen Alert (atoca) - 2 of 2
    Token: Robert Sparks

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending the
addition of chairs and edits to the text of the charter to be prepared
by Robert Sparks.  The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under Evaluation for IETF Review
  o Mobility EXTensions for IPv6 (mext) - 1 of 2
    Token: Jari Arkko

The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter.
The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a
separate message to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will
place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (August 26,
2010).

  o Behavior Engineering for Hindrance Avoidance (behave) - 2 of 2
    Token: David Harrington

The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter
pending edits to the text of the charter to be provided by David
Harrington.  The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter
announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org.  The
Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG
teleconference (August 26, 2010).

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
  o Transparent Interconnection of Lots of Links (trill) - 1 of 1
    Token: Ralph Droms

The IESG decided not to approve the rechartering of the working group
at this time.  The Secretariat will await further instructions
regarding the charter of TRILL.

5. IAB News We Can Use

6. Management Issues
   6.1 Expert for draft-ietf-idnabis-tables [IANA #378056] (Michelle
   Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved Patrik Faltstrom
(paf@cisco.com) as the designated expert for draft-ietf-idnabis-tables.

   6.2 draft-ietf-6man-text-addr-representation AUTH48 change (Jari
   Arkko)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG discussed the AUTH48
change to this document and found it acceptable.

7. Working Group News

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details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.