Minutes for 6TISCH at interim-2015-6tisch-2
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Meeting Minutes
minutes-interim-2015-6tisch-2

## THIS IS A DRAFT!!! ##

# Minutes, 23 January 2015 interim, 6TiSCH WG #

Note: timestamps in PST.

Connection details
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* Webex:
https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/j.php?ED=219615007&UID=481905242&PW=NZTRkNDAwOTE1&RT=MiMyMw%3D%3D
* Etherpad: http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/6tisch?useMonospaceFont=true
* Topic: 6TiSCH Bi-Weekly * Time: 8:00 am, Pacific Daylight Time (San
Francisco, GMT-07:00) * Meeting Number: 206 802 913 * Meeting Password: sixtus
* CCM: +14085256800x206802913

Resources
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* Webex recording:
https://cisco.webex.com/ciscosales/lsr.php?RCID=41d6ba8265e441bab0ffb9fc4c6b35fc
* Wiki: https://bitbucket.org/6tisch/meetings/wiki/150123_webex * Slides:
https://bitbucket.org/6tisch/meetings/src/master/140123_webex/slides_150123_webex.ppt

Are the slides for this part uploaded somewhere?

Taking notes _(using Etherpad)_
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1. xavi vilajosana

Present _(alphabetically)_
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1. Thomas Watteyne
1. Pascal Thubert
1. Chonggang Wang
1. Diego Dujovne
1. Georgios Exarchakos
1. Giuseppe Piro
1. Guillaume Gaillard
1. Maria Rita Palattella
1. Michael Richardson
1. Nicola Accettura
1. Patrick Wetterwald
1. Pouria Zand
1. Rene Struik
1. Xavi Vilajosana
1. Zhuo Chen

Action Items
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1. **Diego**  Add graph describe OTF-OTF communication on the OTF draft
1. **Pascal**  Incorporate security text in the architecture and publish for
last call

Agenda
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   * Administrivia (2min)
   * draft-dujovne-6tisch-on-the-fly-04   [Diego Dujovne]      [20min]
   * draft-piro-6tisch-security-issues    [Giuseppe Piro]      [20min]
   * Security Architecture text           [René Struik]        [5min]
   * announcement ROLL interim meeting    [Michael Richardson] [5min]
   * Draft minimal delay discussion       [Chairs]             [5min]

Minutes
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* _[08.05]_ Meeting starts
      * recording starts
      * last call minutes are approved
      * agenda is approved. Discussion on delaying minimal till after ROLL
      interim * Xavi V.: points out the need to reach consensus on the Minimal
      draft * Thomas W.: also points out the need to reach some agreements for
      the ETSI interop event which needs to be prepared soon. * Xavi V.:
      discussion about minimal draft, * Pascal T.: suggest to take that topic
      as part of interim discussion
* _[08.10]_  draft-dujovne-6tisch-on-the-fly-04 **[Diego Dujovne]**
      * OTF new version v04
      * L3 mechanism used to adapt and dynamically allocate BW to nodes.
      * used to allocate cells on the Best effort track. No other. Can co-exist
      with other scheduling mechanisms. * Collisions are possible. * 3 elements
      are defined:
         1. scheduled cells
         2. required cells
         3. OTF threshold

      * Separation between mechanism and policy.
      * Trade-off between scheduled cells and required cells. Adds and removes
      them according to a threshold.
         - Threshold creates over-provisioning of nodes which can be
         compensated by the reduction of churn to constantly add/remove cells.

      * Use cells and bundles.
         * One bundle per track.
         * When OTF requires a cell this cell is always within a Bundle.

      * Thomas W.: is there a way to query the algorithm that the motes are
      using? Is there a management entity that can configure the algorithm to
      be used?

      * Diego D: Yes.

      * Chonggang Wang:  Asks if a graph can be added  within the draft to
      describe OTF-OTF communication.

* _[08.34]_ draft-piro-6tisch-security-issues **[Giuseppe Piro]**
      * update on the draft. Security aspects. MAC Layer security. Aim to
      better understand the MAC layer security requirements and identify issues.

      * addresses
         * definition of keys
         * configuration
         * and lightweight key management scheme

      * 3 types of keys
         * master key: is the initial secret shared by the devices in the
         network. Configured at pre-deployment. E.g by the manufacturer;
         working to adapt the draft to be inline the assumptions discussed in
         the Sec. WG

         * production network key: secret shared between all authorized nodes
         and obtained during the join procedure

         * per-peer L2 Key. negotiated only between peers through a KMP.

      * Master key is used to protect EBs and msgs during the join process.
      * production network ... ?

      * different security configurations.
         * fully secure
         * unsecure
         * partially secure

      * L2 security link is setup in several phases:
         * setup phase
         * bootstrap phase
         * join phase
         * key negotiation phase

      * key negotiation phase uses IEs to exchange information
      * the process is composed of 6 steps where nodes exchange signatures
      computed using initial information. * this steps require peer-wise
      communication between peers.

      * the draft also identifies and tries to resolve some issues related to
      15.4e std.

      * Rene Struik: summarizes the security text that is proposed for addition
      to the architecture document. * Thursday (security design team call)
      concluded the text that needs to be merged to the architecture d * Todo
      for Pascal T.: Incorporate that text in the architecture and publish for
      last call. * Pascal T.: after next version of the document (architecture
      draft) there will be the 2 weeks last call for reviews before submitting
      to th IESG

* _[08.52]_ announcement ROLL interim meeting

      * ROLL interim call 10 Feb 2015 at the ROLL WG. 16h UTC
      * invited 6lo, 6man, 6tisch
      * A 3h virtual meeting
      * call for 00 drafts for proposals on how to do this. Explain the
      situations.

* ETSI interop.

      * they want to start the process of writing the specs.
      * we need to find a firm date.
      * when the work starts we need a spec out so the work can start using an
      status base. * the goal is to start working on stable draft.

      * Thomas W.: what about security? What minimal draft says about security?
      what we expect for the interop in terms of security.

      * Pascal T.: minimal says that Layer-2 security is needed. But it starts
      assuming that keys are there. There can be multiple ways to get the keys,
      and that's out of scope for minimal.

      * Thomas W.: I agree with that.
      * Michael R.: comments related to the terminology draft. We should agree
      if we incorporate them. * Michael R.: answered to Rene, and we need to
      make sure we all agree. * Pascal T.: let's agree on the ML.

      * Maria-Rita P.: We need to decided what we do on the terminology. If it
      is normative reference it will block other references.

      * Pascal T.: we depend on terminology normative reference for other
      drafts to be published. * Pascal T.: suggestion to publish right now the
      terminology. * Thomas W.: I agree with that.

* AOB

      * Thomas W.: Time Change for the next meeting! Next meeting 6th feb 7AM
      pct 3pm UTC 4PM CET.

* _[09.05]_ Meeting ends