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Meeting Minutes
minutes-interim-2017-6tisch-09-201704280700

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# Minutes, 28 April 2017 interim, 6TiSCH WG #

Note: timestamps in PDT.

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Taking notes _(using Etherpad)_
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1. Xavi Vilajosana
1. Pascal Thubert

Present _(alphabetically)_
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1. Diego Dujovne
1. Jonathan Munoz
1. Malisa Vucinic
1. Maria-Rita Palatella
1. Michael Richardson
1. Qin Wang
1. Rashid Sangi
1. Pascal Thubert
1. Remy Leone
1. Thomas Watteyne
1. Simon Duquennoy
1. Xavi Vilajosana
1. Tengfei Chang

Action Items
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     * THomas to contact Carsten
     * Thomas to contact MR and coordinate PT
     * Xavi and Qin to review SF0
     * Jonathan to review 6P after Charlie's comments are addressed
     * Xavi and Qin to address Charlie's comments
     * Xavi to bootrap research liaison

Agenda
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* Administrivia                              [ 2min]
     * Agenda bashing
     * Approval minutes from last meeting

* Status of drafts (chairs)                  [15min]
     * Adoption of Michael’s drafts on security – co authors?
     * 6P and SF0 – launching last calls?

* 6P finalization (Thomas, Qin)              [10min]
* Update on security (Michael/Malisa)        [10min]
* Research Liaison Task Force (Thomas)       [15min]
* AOB                                        [ 3min]

Minutes
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* [07:05]Administrivia                            [ 2min]
     * Agenda bashing
     * Approval minutes from last meeting
     * Minutes of last meeting; this agenda approval => all Approved

* [7:07]Status of drafts (chairs)
     * todo from last time:
          - Randy to check IETF documents on 6TiSCH and what its relation to
          detnet. - Plugtest: Have a chat and move ahead with the plugtest.
          Miguel and MR agreed on going forward with the Plugtest. The weekend
          before the IETF meeting in Prague. Collocated event between 6TiSCH
          and CoRe (OsCOAP).
                - Action: TW to contact Carsten
                - ETSI: Will organize providing TRT tool
                - Remark from Michael: Not having NDA in the plugtest. ETSI
                agreed to not have the NDA. - Maria Rita volunteers to be part
                of the organization team. - Remy asks for the test descriptions
                as a markdown document instead of workd or pdf file. - MR
                should use some online tools. - F-Interop tools will be used. -
                The test description will be published by mid of June. - 14th
                and 15th of July Plugtest. - for each test think how the
                assertions can be made true or false.
                 - Remy agrees to be proof-reader of the test-description
                 - MR: have a new set of tests that are already done from
                 previous plugtests that can be ported to F-interop. No need to
                 add everything. - Remy: to demo F-Interop in 2 week (next
                 meeting). - Minimal, 6P, Minimal security? - Malisa: we are at
                 a point were we can use minimal security with pre-shared keys.
                 - MR: agrees. - Remy: are those minimal security frames
                 supported by tshark (wireshark). - Malisa: there is no
                 dissector for OSCOAP in Wireshark. - 6P -> Adapt from
                 previous tests. - Call for experts: send CVs and selection
                 process to write the test description. beta version for mid
                 June. Final version for 1st of July.

          * Adoption of Michael’s drafts on security

                 - Diego joins enhanced beacon draft.
                    - todo a cleanup and publish before call for adoption.

                 - Peter volunteer to help on rekey draft. A refresh will be
                 done and then will be an adoption call.

* [7:  ] 6P finalization (Thomas, Qin)          [10min]
     *

     * 6P and SF0 – launching last calls?
        - wrap up 6P draft
        - Charlie provided comments. Need to be addressed by the drafts.
        - Xavi and Qin volunteer to review SF0 draft before last-call.
        - Xavi and Qin to work on addressing 6P issues raised by Charlie.
        - Action: Diego to write an email and open a ticket to track the issues
        between SF and 6P. - Action: Jonathan to review 6P draft.
      * SF0 to be experimental

* [7:  ] Update on security (Michael/Malisa)       [10min]
     * Concern on using EDHOC and OSCOAP which are not being adopted by any WG.
     * We need a lower network cost mechanism (w.r.t. DTLS) and this 2
     mechanisms fit our needs. * the 6TiSCH minimal security needs more
     explanatory tags indicating why is not covering some aspects. Comment from
     AD. * Malisa is working to provide an evaluation of the joining overhead
     considering different mechanisms. * The key of using OSCOAP is the lesser
     number of packet exchanges. * DTLS has 29 B of overhead.

* [7:  ] Research Liaison Task Force (Thomas)          [ 3min]
     * It might be useful to have some tracking of what is going on in terms of
     performance, experimentation, evaluation, simulation, etc... * List the
     ideas of stuff that we would like somebody to work on and validate
     concepts. * How this was in the RPL days? Pascal.
        - Nothing formal in RPL.
        - Might make sense to have somebody looking at what is going on in the
        research/industry community and link it to our activities. - Use the
        IETF Wiki, listing the experiments , results, etc.... - Xavi volunteers
        to move this forward.

* [8:  ] AOB?

     * No other B.