Minutes interim-2018-cellar-04: Tue 20:00
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Meeting Minutes
minutes-interim-2018-cellar-04-201808282000

   CELLAR -- Virtual Interim Meeting

DRAFT MINUTES FOR Virtual Interim Meeting:  August 28, 2018        20:00 UTC

INFO:
        https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2018-cellar-04/session/cellar

Attendees:
Michael Richardson
Moritz Bunkus
Jérôme Martinez
Martin Below
Steve Lhomme
Dave Rice (as call-in user)
Michael Niedermayer

Missing: Tim Terriberry

Agenda:

1. Note Well.    https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/
2. Draft minutes from Last meeting 
https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/cellar/current/msg01652.html Adopted as
written.

3. Logistics for Meeting.
   2a) Etherpad for notes
       https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/notes-cellar-virtual04?useMonospaceFont=true

   2b) Roll call

4. WG status update
   - milestones submitted.
   - EBML not in WG last call yet.
   -

5. Progress on EBML comments and review.
   - when we can get EBML-05 posted?
   - 8 issues open, 4 are "feature requests" for a future revision, 4 are
      small issues with pull requests outstanding.
      https://github.com/Matroska-Org/ebml-specification/issues/183
      The Group thinks that First Come First Served should be fine for the EBML
      DocType Registry.
 Initial values of matroska, and webm.
 "rawcooked" will be added Jérôme Martinez.

      https://github.com/Matroska-Org/ebml-specification/issues/182
      closed with small change to document.

      https://github.com/Matroska-Org/ebml-specification/issues/176
    closed, with attachment not being recurring.

      https://github.com/Matroska-Org/ebml-specification/issues/175  LEFT OPEN
    unclear if this is an ebml issue, but this is an addition.

      https://github.com/Matroska-Org/ebml-specification/issues/164  LEFT OPEN
      desire for a rational number format, extension.  can be defined as an
      extension.

      https://github.com/Matroska-Org/ebml-specification/issues/157 closed
      #180 closed, nobody liked it.
 #181 https://github.com/Matroska-Org/ebml-specification/pull/181  <-
 consensus to go with this solution.

      https://github.com/Matroska-Org/ebml-specification/issues/156
      this should be a new document, JSON/XML/etc. translation of EBML.

      https://github.com/Matroska-Org/ebml-specification/issues/48  CLOSED in
      previous version.

6. EBML IANA Considerations, REDUX.

   - Link to IANA considerations thread -
      https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/cellar/current/msg01601.html
   - EBML Header has TLV Element with Document Type. ElementID=xxx.
   - EBML Header Document Type needs a registry for Document Types: what is the
   amending - EBML header ElementIDs should have an update rule that says IETF
   Standards Action to update, (and version must be > 1).

(was discussed above)

ACTION:
    1) updated ebml document for week of August 27, with updated IANA
    considerations for all additions.
          (ElementName, and DocType Registry)
    2) ffv1 to be worked upon in September..
    3) work on Matroska document for September meeting.


7. Any other Business.