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Minutes interim-2018-cellar-05: Tue 20:00
minutes-interim-2018-cellar-05-201809252000-00

Meeting Minutes Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission (cellar) WG
Date and time 2018-09-25 20:00
Title Minutes interim-2018-cellar-05: Tue 20:00
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minutes-interim-2018-cellar-05-201809252000-00
CELLAR -- DRAFT minutes for Virtual Interim Meeting
September 25, 2018        20:00 UTC

INFO:
        https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2018-cellar-05/session/cellar
        https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2018-cellar-05-cellar-01/

WEBEX:
        Meeting number: 313 505 170
        Meeting password: dq64cWsm
        Meeting link:
        https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=me21026faa14be85507cdef66b860014e
        Audio connection:
        1-650-479-3208 Call-in toll number (US/Canada)

People present:
        1. Michael Richardson
        2. Dave Rice
        3. Jerome Martinez
        4. Michael Niedermayer
        5. Moritz Bunkus
        6. Steve Lhomme
        7. Martin Below (4:50pm)

Agenda:

1. Note Well.
2. Draft minutes from Last meeting
        - accepted as written.

3. Logistics for Meeting.
   2a) Etherpad for notes
       https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/notes-cellar-virtual04?useMonospaceFont=true

   2b) Roll call

4. WG status update
   - EBML to be placed into 2-week WGLC upon posting of -07 version.
                   Dave Rice to post -07 version. Done.

   - work on Matroska and FFV1 issues
            - FFV1 some work resumed in September, some pull requests. still
            have a few issues still open.

5. https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFV1/issues
   - 4..5 identified issues. 3 for v1, 2 for v4.
   - believe that resolution is soon, and pull requests are good.
                - Dave Rice will post new document once 126 is merged. This has
                been done.

6. https://github.com/Matroska-Org/matroska-specification/issues
   - question from co-chair: why are "WEBM" issues in this document?
   - tags: "clarification" highest priority.
   - tag: codec mapping, mixed bag of priorities
   - tag: format addition, lowest priority.
   - codec mapping into it's own document?
   - one document per codec:  avc, hevc, vp9, opus, ac3, dts, (srt), (ssa),
   aac, (mp3), - "WebM" encryption elements are in still on common, but WebM
   was a fork of Matroska.
      Want to reserve ElementIds that are used in WebM to be reserved in
      Matroska. These values should be reserved in Matroska.

    https://github.com/Matroska-Org/matroska-specification/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Aclarifications+-label%3Aenhancement+-label%3A%22codec+mapping%22++-label%3Atags+-label%3A%22format+addition%22

    re: #154, also in pull request #256, and also in an ITU document.
            - can be closed?
         re: #56, close it? leave it? lack of memory of what the issue was. 
         Closed. re: #43 closed as duplicate of ebml issue.
    re: #242, related to pull request #100, taken by Moritz.
    re: #234, move Control Track definitions to an appendix (Steve)

7. Any other Business.
   - IANA considerations for reserved values.
     --> WebM encryption values will need a longer discussion.

   -