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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the February 22, 2018 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES 
--------------------------------- 
Alia Atlas (Juniper) / Routing Area
Ignas Bagdonas (Equinix) / incoming Operations and Management Area
Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Ben Campbell (Oracle) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Benoit Claise (Cisco) / Operations and Management Area
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / IETF Chair, General Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison 
Spencer Dawkins (Wonder Hamster Internetworking) / Transport Area
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Ted Hardie (Google) / IAB Chair
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / incoming Security Area
Suresh Krishnan (Kaloom) / Internet Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (ETH Zurich) / Transport Area
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
John Leslie / Scribe 
Terry Manderson (ICANN) / Internet Area
Alexey Melnikov / Applications and Real-Time Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat 
Kathleen Moriarty (Dell EMC) / Security Area
Eric Rescorla (Mozilla) / Security Area
Alvaro Retana (Cisco) / Routing Area
Adam Roach (Mozilla) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / incoming Routing Area
Suzanne Woolf / IAB Liaison

REGRETS 
---------------------------------
Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor
Susan Hares / Scribe 
Carlos Pignataro (Cisco) / Scribe
Portia Wenze-Danley (ISOC) / Interim IAD

OBSERVERS
--------------------------------- 
Marco Morales
Greg Wood


MINUTES 
--------------------------------- 
1. Administrivia 
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the February 8, 2018 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the February 8, 2018 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The minutes of the IETF 101 BOF Coordination Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the February 8, 2018 IESG Teleconference 
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-scaling-rec-09  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Action
  NONE

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  o Ben Campbell to find a designated expert for RFC 6336 [IANA 
    #1047305].
  o Kathleen Moriarty to find a designated expert for RFC-ietf-mile-
    rolie [IANA #1050195].

IN PROGRESS:
  o Eric Rescorla to find a designated expert for RFC 7009 [IANA
    #1048048].

NEW:
  o Kathleen Moriarty and Benjamin Kaduk to find a designated expert for 
    RFC 5793 [IANA #1050763].

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
  o draft-ietf-bess-dci-evpn-overlay-09  - IETF stream
    Interconnect Solution for EVPN Overlay networks (Proposed Standard) 
    - 1 of 8
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Alvaro Retana confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-bess-fat-pw-bgp-03  - IETF stream
    Extensions to BGP Signaled Pseudowires to support Flow-Aware
    Transport Labels (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 8
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Alvaro Retana confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-ice-rfc5245bis-17  - IETF stream
    Interactive Connectivity Establishment (ICE): A Protocol for
    Network Address Translator (NAT) Traversal (Proposed Standard) - 3
    of 8
    Token: Ben Campbell

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Suresh Krishnan and Adam Roach.*

  o draft-ietf-lime-yang-connection-oriented-oam-model-06  - IETF stream
    Generic YANG Data Model for Connection Oriented Operations,
    Administration, and Maintenance(OAM) protocols (Proposed Standard) - 
    4 of 8
    Token: Benoit Claise

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Benoit Claise. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-rtgwg-backoff-algo-07  - IETF stream
    SPF Back-off algorithm for link state IGPs (Proposed Standard) - 5 
    of 8
    Token: Alia Atlas

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Deborah Brungard and Alvaro Retana.*

  o draft-ietf-sacm-nea-swima-patnc-02  - IETF stream
    Software Inventory Message and Attributes (SWIMA) for PA-TNC
    (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 8
    Token: Kathleen Moriarty

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ben Campbell and Alexey Melnikov.*

  o draft-ietf-bier-isis-extensions-07  - IETF stream
    BIER support via ISIS (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 8
    Token: Alia Atlas

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Suresh Krishnan, Eric Rescorla, and Adam Roach.*

  o draft-ietf-bier-ospf-bier-extensions-14  - IETF stream
    OSPF Extensions for BIER (Proposed Standard) - 8 of 8
    Token: Alia Atlas

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Suresh Krishnan and Eric Rescorla.*

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items    
  o draft-ietf-bess-evpn-usage-08  - IETF stream
    Usage and applicability of BGP MPLS based Ethernet VPN
    (Informational) - 1 of 4
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action 
Announcement once Alvaro Retana confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-lwig-crypto-sensors-05  - IETF stream
    Practical Considerations and Implementation Experiences in Securing
    Smart Object Networks (Informational) - 2 of 4
    Token: Suresh Krishnan

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action 
Announcement once Suresh Krishnan confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-modern-problem-framework-03  - IETF stream
    Modern Problem Statement, Use Cases, and Framework (Informational) - 
    3 of 4
    Token: Adam Roach

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Kathleen Moriarty.*

  o draft-ietf-nvo3-hpvr2nve-cp-req-15  - IETF stream
    Split Network Virtualization Edge (Split-NVE) Control Plane
    Requirements (Informational) - 4 of 4
    Token: Alia Atlas

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action 
Announcement once Alia Atlas confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  o conflict-review-daveor-cgn-logging-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-daveor-cgn-logging
      draft-daveor-cgn-logging-02
      Approaches to Address the Availability of Information in Criminal
    Investigations Involving Large-Scale IP Address Sharing
    Technologies (ISE: Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Suresh Krishnan

The IESG recommends that the RFC Editor does not publish this document 
without IETF review and IESG approval. The Secretariat will send a "do 
not publish" message to the RFC Independent Submissions Editor pending 
edits to the conflict review response to be prepared by Suresh Krishnan.

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4.3 For action
  o conflict-review-young-entity-category-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-young-entity-category
      draft-young-entity-category-07
      The Entity Category SAML Attribute Types (ISE: Informational) - 1 
      of 2
    Token: Alissa Cooper

The document was assigned to Eric Rescorla for RFC 5742 review.

  o conflict-review-irtf-nwcrg-network-coding-taxonomy-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-nwcrg-network-coding-taxonomy
      draft-irtf-nwcrg-network-coding-taxonomy-07
      Taxonomy of Coding Techniques for Efficient Network
    Communications (IRTF: Informational) - 2 of 2
    Token: Alissa Cooper

The document was assigned to Mirja Kuehlewind for RFC 5742 review.

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  o Security Dispatch (secdispatch) - 1 of 2
    Area: SEC (Eric Rescorla)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message 
to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda 
for the next IESG Teleconference (March 8, 2018).

  o Trusted Execution Environment Provisioning (teep) - 2 of 2
    Area: SEC (Kathleen Moriarty)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message 
to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda 
for the next IESG Teleconference (March 8, 2018).

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  o EAP Method Update (emu) - 1 of 3
     Area: SEC (Kathleen Moriarty)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending the 
addition of chairs to be provided by Kathleen Moriarty. The Secretariat 
will send a WG Action announcement. 

  o Link State Vector Routing (lsvr) - 2 of 3
    Area: RTG (Alvaro Retana)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The Secretariat 
will send a WG Action announcement. 

  o Link State Routing (lsr) - 3 of 3
    Area: RTG (Alia Atlas)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The Secretariat 
will send a WG Action announcement. 

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  o Dynamic Host Configuration (dhc) - 1 of 2
    Area: INT (Suresh Krishnan)

The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter 
pending edits to the milestones to be provided by Suresh Krishnan. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a 
separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG 
on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (March 8, 2018).

  o Bit Indexed Explicit Replication (bier) - 2 of 2
    Area: RTG (Alia Atlas)

The revised charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Deborah Brungard and Alissa Cooper.*  

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  o Limited Additional Mechanisms for PKIX and SMIME (lamps) - 1 of 1
    Area: SEC (Eric Rescorla)

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement. 

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues
   6.1 Alternate IESG Ballot Procedure for draft-mm-wg-effect-encrypt-17 
       (Alissa Cooper)

The management issue was removed from the agenda prior to the start of 
the teleconference.

   6.2 IESG Telechat Schedule Between IETF 101 and IETF 102 (Amy Vezza/
       Secretariat)

The management issue was discussed. 

   6.3 ISOC BoT confirmation (Alissa Cooper)

The management issue was discussed in an executive session. The IESG 
confirmed the IAB's selections for the ISOC Board of Trustees.

   6.4 [IANA #1050195] Designated expert for RFC-ietf-mile-rolie (Amanda 
       Baber/IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved David Waltermire 
<david.waltermire@nist.gov> and Stephen Banghart 
<stephen.banghart@nist.gov> as the designated experts for RFC 8322 
(formerly RFC-ietf-mile-rolie) [IANA #1050195].

   6.5 Designated expert for RFC 6336 (Ben Campbell)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Ari Keranen 
<ari.keranen@ericsson.com> as the designated expert for RFC 6336 [IANA 
#1047305].

   6.6 March 8 telechat document slate (Alissa Cooper)

The management issue was discussed.

   6.7 [IANA #1050763] Designated expert for RFC 5793 (Sabrina Tanamal/
       IANA)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item: Kathleen Moriarty and Benjamin Kaduk to find a designated 
expert for RFC 5793 [IANA #1050763].

   6.8 Designated Experts for draft-ietf-sacm-nea-swima-patnc (Kathleen 
       Moriarty)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved David Waltermire 
<david.waltermire@nist.gov> and Jessica Fitzgerald-McKay 
<jmfmckay@gmail.com> as the designated experts for draft-ietf-sacm-nea-
swima-patnc.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)


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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.