Minutes interim-2018-iesg-07 2018-04-05 14:00
minutes-interim-2018-iesg-07-201804051400-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the April 5, 2018 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES 
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Ignas Bagdonas (Equinix) /  Operations and Management Area
Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Ben Campbell (Oracle) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / IETF Chair, General Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison 
Spencer Dawkins (Wonder Hamster Internetworking) / Transport Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Ted Hardie (Google) / IAB Chair
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area
Suresh Krishnan (Kaloom) / Internet Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (ETH Zurich) / Transport Area
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Alexey Melnikov / Applications and Real-Time Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat 
Alexa Morris (AMS) / IETF Secretariat 
Eric Rescorla (Mozilla) / Security Area
Adam Roach (Mozilla) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Jeff Tantsura (Nuage Networks) / IAB Liaison
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area

REGRETS 
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Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor
Terry Manderson (ICANN) / Internet Area
Alvaro Retana (Huawei) / Routing Area
Portia Wenze-Danley (ISOC) / Interim IAD

OBSERVERS
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Susan Hares
John Leslie
Nils Ohlmeier
Greg Wood

MINUTES 
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1. Administrivia 
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the March 8, 2018 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the March 8, 2018 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the March 8, 2018 IESG Teleconference 
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-ice-rfc5245bis-20  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-15  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-tls-dnssec-chain-extension-07  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-oauth-discovery-10  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-rtgwg-backoff-algo-10  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-dmm-4283mnids-08  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-trill-smart-endnodes-11  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis-20  (Best Current Practice)
  o draft-farrel-sfc-convent-06  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-trill-directory-assisted-encap-11  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-trill-ecn-support-07  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-sacm-nea-swima-patnc-05  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Action
  o draft-ietf-trill-transport-over-mpls-08  (Informational)
  o draft-mm-wg-effect-encrypt-25  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-modern-problem-framework-04  (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  NONE

IN PROGRESS:
  o Benjamin Kaduk to find a designated expert for RFC 5793 [IANA 
    #1050763].
  o Adam Roach to find a designated expert for RFC 8225 [IANA #1055836].

NEW:
  o Alexey Melnikov to find a designated expert for RFC-irtf-cfrg-xmss-
    hash-based-signatures [IANA #1053888].

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items 
  o draft-ietf-sidr-slurm-07  - IETF stream
    Simplified Local internet nUmber Resource Management with the RPKI
    (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 12
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Warren Kumari and Adam Roach.*

  o draft-ietf-6tisch-6top-protocol-11  - IETF stream
    6top Protocol (6P) (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 12
    Token: Suresh Krishnan

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk and Alexey Melnikov.*

  o draft-ietf-mmusic-trickle-ice-sip-14  - IETF stream
    A Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Usage for Trickle ICE (Proposed
    Standard) - 3 of 12
    Token: Ben Campbell

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Mirja Kuehlewind, Eric Rescorla, and Adam Roach.*

  o draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-09  - IETF stream
    Conveying path setup type in PCEP messages (Proposed Standard) - 4 
    of 12
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Deborah Brungard confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-6man-ndpioiana-02  - IETF stream
    IPv6 ND PIO Flags IANA considerations (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 12
    Token: Suresh Krishnan

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Suresh Krishnan confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-6lo-rfc6775-update-17  - IETF stream
    Registration Extensions for 6LoWPAN Neighbor Discovery (Proposed
    Standard) - 6 of 12
    Token: Suresh Krishnan

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Suresh Krishnan confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-ice-trickle-18  - IETF stream
    Trickle ICE: Incremental Provisioning of Candidates for the
    Interactive Connectivity Establishment (ICE) Protocol (Proposed
    Standard) - 7 of 12
    Token: Ben Campbell

Eric Rescorla formally recused himself from the discussion. The document 
remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised 
by Adam Roach.*

  o draft-ietf-tls-iana-registry-updates-04  - IETF stream
    IANA Registry Updates for TLS and DTLS (Proposed Standard) - 8 of 12
    Token: Benjamin Kaduk

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Benjamin Kaduk confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-tls-record-limit-02  - IETF stream
    Record Size Limit Extension for Transport Layer Security (TLS)
    (Proposed Standard) - 9 of 12
    Token: Benjamin Kaduk

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Benjamin Kaduk confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-10  - IETF stream
    A YANG Data Model for Routing Information Base (RIB) (Proposed
    Standard) - 10 of 12
    Token: Martin Vigoureux

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Suresh Krishnan.*

  o draft-ietf-l2sm-l2vpn-service-model-09  - IETF stream
    A YANG Data Model for L2VPN Service Delivery (Proposed Standard) - 
    11 of 12
    Token: Ignas Bagdonas

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alissa Cooper.*

  o draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-dc-fabric-network-topology-08  - IETF stream
    A YANG Data Model for Fabric Topology in Data Center Networks
    (Proposed Standard) - 12 of 12
    Token: Martin Vigoureux

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ignas Bagdonas.*

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  o draft-ietf-trill-over-ip-16  - IETF stream
    TRILL (Transparent Interconnection of Lots of Links) Over IP
    Transport (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 1
    Token: Martin Vigoureux

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Mirja Kuehlewind.*

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items 
  o status-change-bier-core-to-proposed-standard-01  - IETF stream
    Promote BIER Architecture and Encapsulation to Proposed Standard
    (based on updating charter) - 1 of 1
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The status change remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points regarding the status change process.

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
  o draft-ietf-teas-scheduled-resources-06  - IETF stream
    Framework for Scheduled Use of Resources (Informational) - 1 of 3
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Deborah Brungard. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-rmcat-sbd-11  - IETF stream
    Shared Bottleneck Detection for Coupled Congestion Control for RTP
    Media. (Experimental) - 2 of 3
    Token: Mirja Kuehlewind

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a 
working group submission Document Action Announcement that includes an 
RFC Editor Note prepared by Mirja Kuehlewind.

  o draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-info-model-15  - IETF stream
    Routing Information Base Info Model (Informational) - 3 of 3
    Token: Martin Vigoureux

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action 
Announcement once Martin Vigoureux confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  o conflict-review-nir-cfrg-rfc7539bis-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-nir-cfrg-rfc7539bis
      draft-nir-cfrg-rfc7539bis-04
      ChaCha20 and Poly1305 for IETF Protocols (IRTF: Informational) - 1 
      of 4
    Token: Benjamin Kaduk

Alexey Melnikov formally recused himself from the discussion. The IESG 
has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The Secretariat 
will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that includes a 
conflict review response prepared by Benjamin Kaduk.

  o conflict-review-mavrogiannopoulos-pkcs8-validated-parameters-00
    IETF conflict review for
    draft-mavrogiannopoulos-pkcs8-validated-parameters
      draft-mavrogiannopoulos-pkcs8-validated-parameters-02
      Storing validation parameters in PKCS#8 (ISE: Informational) - 2 
      of 4
    Token: Eric Rescorla

The document was removed from the agenda prior to the start of the 
teleconference.

  o conflict-review-ribose-asciirfc-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-ribose-asciirfc
      draft-ribose-asciirfc-06
      AsciiRFC: Authoring Internet-Drafts And RFCs Using AsciiDoc (ISE:
    Informational) - 3 of 4
    Token: Spencer Dawkins

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response 
prepared by Spencer Dawkins.


  o conflict-review-irtf-nwcrg-network-coding-taxonomy-02
    IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-nwcrg-network-coding-taxonomy
      draft-irtf-nwcrg-network-coding-taxonomy-08
      Taxonomy of Coding Techniques for Efficient Network
    Communications (IRTF: Informational) - 4 of 4
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The 
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that 
includes a conflict review response prepared by Alexey Melnikov.

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  o IETF Administrative Support Activity 2 (iasa2) - 1 of 1
    Area: GEN (Alissa Cooper)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review pending edits to 
be provided by Alissa Cooper. The Secretariat will send a WG Review 
announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The 
Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG 
Teleconference (April 19, 2018).

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues
   6.1 [IANA #1053888] Designated expert for RFC-irtf-cfrg-xmss-hash-
       based-signatures (Amanda Baber/IANA)

The management issue was discussed.  

Action item: Alexey Melnikov to find a designated expert for RFC-irtf-
cfrg-xmss-hash-based-signatures [IANA #1053888].

   6.2 Network Configuration (netconf) Recharter

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved the revised 
charter for the Network Configuration (netconf) working group on March 
18, 2018. The Secretariat sent a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement on 
March 20, 2018.

   6.3 IESG Liaisons and Assignments

The management issue was discussed. The IESG made the following
assignments during IETF 101:

  o IAB Liaison: Deborah Brungard
  o Tools Liaison: Eric Rescorla
  o Nomcom Liaison: Adam Roach
  o EDU Directorate Liaison: Suresh Krishnan
  o IESG List admins: Terry Manderson, Suresh Krishnan, 
    list-manager@ietf.org
  o Comms Review Team: Mirja Kuehlewind, Warren Kumari, Alvaro Retana

   6.4 Leadership Meeting with IEEE 802 in November (Alissa Cooper)

The management issue was discussed.  

   6.5 Expedited RFC Processing for draft-ietf-nvo3-hpvr2nve-cp-req 
       (Martin Vigoureux)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved requesting 
expedited RFC processing for draft-ietf-nvo3-hpvr2nve-cp-req.

   6.6 [IANA #1055836] Designated expert for RFC 8225 (Sabrina Tanamal / 
       IANA)

The management issue was discussed. An action item to find a designated 
expert for RFC 8225 was assigned to Adam Roach prior to the start of the 
meeting [IANA #1055836].

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)


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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.