Minutes interim-2018-iesg-09 2018-05-10 14:00
minutes-interim-2018-iesg-09-201805101400-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the May 10, 2018 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES 
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Ignas Bagdonas (Equinix) /  Operations and Management Area
Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Ben Campbell (Oracle) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / IETF Chair, General Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison 
Spencer Dawkins (Wonder Hamster Internetworking) / Transport Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Ted Hardie (Google) / IAB Chair
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area
Suresh Krishnan (Kaloom) / Internet Area
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Terry Manderson (ICANN) / Internet Area
Alexey Melnikov / Applications and Real-Time Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Alexa Morris (AMS) / IETF Secretariat 
Eric Rescorla (Mozilla) / Security Area
Alvaro Retana (Huawei) / Routing Area
Adam Roach (Mozilla) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Jeff Tantsura (Nuage Networks) / IAB Liaison
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area

REGRETS 
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Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor
Mirja Kuehlewind (ETH Zurich) / Transport Area
Portia Wenze-Danley (ISOC) / Interim IAD

OBSERVERS
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John Bradley
Mike Jones
Andrei Popov

MINUTES 
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1. Administrivia 
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the April 19, 2018 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the April 5, 2018 Teleconference were approved. 
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the April 19, 2018 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the April 19, 2018 IESG Teleconference 
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-nfsv4-flex-files-19  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-nfsv4-layout-types-13  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Action
  NONE

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  o Benjamin Kaduk to find a designated expert for RFC 5793 [IANA 
    #1050763].
  o Alexey Melnikov to find a designated expert for RFC-irtf-cfrg-xmss-
    hash-based-signatures [IANA #1053888].
  o Ignas Bagdonas to find a designated expert for RFC 8350 [IANA 
    #1108549]

IN PROGRESS:
  o Benjamin Kaduk to ask the designated experts for the AEAD Parameters 
    registry to update the registry noting that draft-nir-cfrg-
    rfc7539bis will obsolete RFC 7539.
  o Alexey Melnikov to find a designated expert for RFC 8323 [IANA 
    #1108770] 

NEW:
  NONE

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items 
  o draft-ietf-tokbind-https-15  - IETF stream
    Token Binding over HTTP (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 9
    Token: Eric Rescorla

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ben Campbell and Alissa Cooper.*

  o draft-ietf-tokbind-negotiation-13  - IETF stream
    Transport Layer Security (TLS) Extension for Token Binding Protocol
    Negotiation (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 9
    Token: Eric Rescorla

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Eric Rescorla confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-tokbind-protocol-18  - IETF stream
    The Token Binding Protocol Version 1.0 (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 9
    Token: Eric Rescorla

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Eric Rescorla confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-bess-evpn-prefix-advertisement-10  - IETF stream
    IP Prefix Advertisement in EVPN (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 9
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

  o draft-ietf-homenet-babel-profile-06  - IETF stream
    Homenet profile of the Babel routing protocol (Proposed Standard) - 
    5 of 9
    Token: Terry Manderson

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Terry Manderson confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-28  - IETF stream
    Native NAT Traversal Mode for the Host Identity Protocol (Proposed
    Standard) - 6 of 9
    Token: Terry Manderson

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Mirja Kuehlewind and Eric Rescorla.*

  o draft-ietf-hip-dex-06  - IETF stream
    HIP Diet EXchange (DEX) (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 9
    Token: Terry Manderson

The document was deferred to the next teleconference (May 24, 2018) 
by Terry Manderson.

  o draft-ietf-secevent-token-13  - IETF stream
    Security Event Token (SET) (Proposed Standard) - 8 of 9
    Token: Benjamin Kaduk

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a 
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-uta-mta-sts-17  - IETF stream
    SMTP MTA Strict Transport Security (MTA-STS) (Proposed Standard) - 9 
    of 9
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Warren Kumari, Eric Rescorla, and Adam Roach.*

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items    
  o draft-ietf-teas-sr-rsvp-coexistence-rec-03  - IETF stream
    Recommendations for RSVP-TE and Segment Routing LSP co-existence
    (Informational) - 1 of 2
    Token: Deborah Brungard

Martin Vigoureux formally recused himself from the discussion. The 
document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed 
by Deborah Brungard. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-hip-rfc4423-bis-19  - IETF stream
    Host Identity Protocol Architecture (Informational) - 2 of 2
    Token: Terry Manderson

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action 
Announcement once Terry Manderson confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent.

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items 
  o draft-hoffman-dns-in-json-15  - IETF stream
    Representing DNS Messages in JSON (Experimental) - 1 of 1
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document's intended status will be changed from Experimental to 
Informational. The document was approved by the IESG pending a final 
check to be completed by Alexey Melnikov. The Secretariat will send an 
individual submission Document Action Announcement.

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  o status-change-kerberos-3des-rc4-to-historic-00  - IETF stream
    Deprecating 3DES and RC4 in Kerberos (Status Change) - 1 of 1
    Token: Eric Rescorla

Benjamin Kaduk formally recused himself from the discussion. The IESG 
agreed to change the status of RFC 4757 from Informational to Historic 
pending the approval of draft-ietf-curdle-des-des-des-die-die-die. The 
Secretariat will send a Document Action Announcement.


3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  NONE

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  o Messaging Layer Security (mls) - 1 of 1
    Area: SEC (Benjamin Kaduk)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message 
to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda 
for the next IESG Teleconference (May 24, 2018).

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  o Benchmarking Methodology (bmwg) - 1 of 1
    Area: OPS (Warren Kumari)

The charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve 
points raised by Deborah Brungard.*  

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues
   6.1 Designated Experts for WOTS+ Signatures, XMSS Signatures, XMSS^MT 
       Signatures [IANA #1053888] (Alexey Melnikov)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Andreas Huelsing 
<ietf@huelsing.net> and Stefan-Lukas Gazdag <ietf@gazdag.de> as the 
designated experts from the WOTS+ Signatures, XMSS Signatures, and 
XMSS^MT Signatures registries.

   6.2 [IANA #1108549] Designated expert for RFC 8350  (Sabrina Tanamal/
       IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Sri Gundavelli 
<sgundave@cisco.com> and Li Xue <xueliucb@gmail.com> as designated 
experts for RFC 8350 [IANA #1108549].

   6.3 [IANA #1108551] Management Item: Acceptance of media type 
       registration from standards organization ETSI (Amanda Baber/IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG asks IANA to process this 
media-type request, and to add this organization to the 'Standards-
related organizations that have registered Media Types in the Standards Tree.'  

   6.4 [IANA #1108770] Designated expert for RFC 8323 (Sabrina Tanamal/
       IANA)

The management issue was discussed. An action item to find a designated 
expert for RFC 8323 was assigned to Alexey Melnikov prior to the start 
of the teleconference.

   6.5 Designated Experts for RFCs 5792 and 5793 [IANA #1050763] 
       (Benjamin Kaduk)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Steve Hanna 
<shanna@juniper.net>, Jessica Fitzgerald-McKay <jmfmckay@gmail.com>, and 
Charles Schmidt <cmschmidt@mitre.org> as the designated experts for RFCs 
5792 and 5793.

   6.6 Current IESG procedure for allowing Secretariat to manage 
       telechat queues (Alexey Melnikov)

The management issue was discussed. 

   6.7 Proposed note re agenda experiment at IETF 103 (Alissa Cooper)

The management issue was discussed. 

   6.8 Executive Session: Telecommunications, Global Competitiveness, 
       and National Security (Alissa Cooper)

The management issue was discussed in an executive session.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)


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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.