Minutes interim-2018-iesg-23 2018-11-21 15:00
minutes-interim-2018-iesg-23-201811211500-00
Meeting Minutes | Internet Engineering Steering Group (iesg) IETF | |
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Date and time | 2018-11-21 15:00 | |
Title | Minutes interim-2018-iesg-23 2018-11-21 15:00 | |
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minutes-interim-2018-iesg-23-201811211500-00
INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the November 21, 2018 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES --------------------------------- Ignas Bagdonas (Equinix) / Operations and Management Area Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area Ben Campbell (Oracle) / Applications and Real-Time Area Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / IETF Chair, General Area Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison Spencer Dawkins (Wonder Hamster Internetworking) / Transport Area Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison Ted Hardie (Google) / IAB Chair Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area Suresh Krishnan (Kaloom) / Internet Area Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area Alexey Melnikov / Applications and Real-Time Area Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Eric Rescorla (Mozilla) / Security Area Alvaro Retana (Huawei) / Routing Area Adam Roach (Mozilla) / Applications and Real-Time Area Jeff Tantsura (Apstra) / IAB Liaison Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat REGRETS --------------------------------- Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor Mirja Kuehlewind (ETH Zurich) / Transport Area Terry Manderson (ICANN) / Internet Area Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area Portia Wenze-Danley (ISOC) / Interim LLC Executive Director OBSERVERS --------------------------------- Jim Hague MINUTES --------------------------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the Minutes The minutes of the October 25, 2018 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. The narrative minutes of the October 25, 2018 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Documents Approved since the October 25, 2018 IESG Teleconference 1.2.1 Protocol Actions o draft-ietf-netmod-schema-mount-12 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-netmod-acl-model-21 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel-17 (Proposed Standard) 1.2.2 Document Actions o draft-mahesh-etsi-urn-05 (Informational) o draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc4960-errata-08 (Informational) 1.3 Review of Action Items DONE: NONE IN PROGRESS: o Eric Rescorla to find designated experts for RFC 8411 [IANA #1120853]. o Eric Rescorla to find designated experts for RFC 6509 (mikey-payloads) [IANA #1121057]. o Eric Rescorla to find designated experts for RFC 6043 (mikey-payloads) [IANA #1121239]. o Eric Rescorla to find designated experts for RFC 6267 (mikey-payloads) [IANA #1121240]. o Eric Rescorla to find designated experts for RFC 6309 (mikey-payloads) [IANA #1121241]. NEW: o Alvaro Retana to follow up on discussion at IETF 103 about putting major discussion points and decisions in the IESG Wiki. o Alvaro Retana to follow up on how to document decisions made during face-to-face IESG conversations. 2. Protocol actions 2.1 WG submissions 2.1.1 New items o draft-ietf-clue-protocol-17 - IETF stream Protocol for Controlling Multiple Streams for Telepresence (CLUE) (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 10 Token: Adam Roach The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Ben Campbell and Benjamin Kaduk.* o draft-ietf-clue-signaling-14 - IETF stream Session Signaling for Controlling Multiple Streams for Telepresence (CLUE) (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 10 Token: Adam Roach The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.* o draft-ietf-oauth-token-exchange-16 - IETF stream OAuth 2.0 Token Exchange (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 10 Token: Eric Rescorla The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Alissa Cooper, Benjamin Kaduk, and Adam Roach.* o draft-ietf-ipsecme-split-dns-14 - IETF stream Split DNS Configuration for IKEv2 (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 10 Token: Eric Rescorla The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Warren Kumari and Alexey Melnikov.* o draft-ietf-ntp-mac-05 - IETF stream Message Authentication Code for the Network Time Protocol (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 10 Token: Suresh Krishnan The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Suresh Krishnan. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-isis-reverse-metric-16 - IETF stream IS-IS Routing with Reverse Metric (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 10 Token: Alvaro Retana Eric Rescorla formally recused himself from the discussion. The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement once Alvaro Retana confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent. o draft-ietf-cbor-cddl-06 - IETF stream Concise data definition language (CDDL): a notational convention to express CBOR and JSON data structures (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 10 Token: Alexey Melnikov The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Eric Rescorla.* o draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-capture-format-08 - IETF stream C-DNS: A DNS Packet Capture Format (Proposed Standard) - 8 of 10 Token: Warren Kumari Terry Manderson formally recused himself from the discussion. The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Benjamin Kaduk and Alexey Melnikov.* o draft-ietf-stir-passport-shaken-05 - IETF stream PASSporT SHAKEN Extension (SHAKEN) (Proposed Standard) - 9 of 10 Token: Adam Roach The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Benjamin Kaduk and Eric Rescorla.* o draft-ietf-dmarc-rfc7601bis-04 - IETF stream Message Header Field for Indicating Message Authentication Status (Proposed Standard) - 10 of 10 Token: Alexey Melnikov The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Ben Campbell and Benjamin Kaduk.* 2.1.2 Returning items NONE 2.2 Individual submissions 2.2.1 New items NONE 2.2.2 Returning items NONE 2.3 Status changes 2.3.1 New items NONE 2.3.2 Returning items NONE 3. Document actions 3.1 WG submissions 3.1.1 New items o draft-ietf-dmarc-arc-protocol-21 - IETF stream Authenticated Received Chain (ARC) Protocol (Experimental) - 1 of 1 Token: Alexey Melnikov The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Alexey Melnikov. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement. 3.1.2 Returning items NONE 3.2 Individual submissions via AD 3.2.1 New items NONE 3.2.2 Returning items NONE 3.3 Status changes 3.3.1 New items NONE 3.3.2 Returning items NONE 3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents 3.4.1 New items NONE 3.4.2 Returning items NONE 3.4.3 For action o conflict-review-mcgrew-hash-sigs-00 IETF conflict review for draft-mcgrew-hash-sigs draft-mcgrew-hash-sigs-13 Hash-Based Signatures (IRTF: Informational) - 1 of 2 Token: Alissa Cooper The document was assigned to Eric Rescorla for RFC 5742 review. o conflict-review-jenkins-cnsa-cert-crl-profile-00 IETF conflict review for draft-jenkins-cnsa-cert-crl-profile draft-jenkins-cnsa-cert-crl-profile-05 Commercial National Security Algorithm (CNSA) Suite Certificate and Certificate Revocation List (CRL) Profile (ISE: Informational) - 2 of 2 Token: Alissa Cooper The document was assigned to Benjamin Kaduk for RFC 5742 review. 4. Working Group actions 4.1 WG creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review NONE 4.1.2 Proposed for approval NONE 4.2 WG rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review o Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting & Conformance (dmarc) - 1 of 2 Area: ART (Alexey Melnikov) The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter. The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (December 6, 2018). o Hypertext Transfer Protocol (httpbis) - 2 of 2 Area: ART (Alexey Melnikov) The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter. The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (December 6, 2018). 4.2.2 Proposed for approval o Managed Incident Lightweight Exchange (mile) - 1 of 1 Area: ART (Alexey Melnikov) The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group. The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement. 5. IAB news we can use 6. Management issues 6.1 Designated Experts for the draft-ietf-isis-reverse-metric (Alvaro Retana) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Christian Hopps <chopps@chopps.org>, Les Ginsberg <ginsberg@cisco.com>, and Hannes Gredler <hannes@gredler.at> as designated experts for draft-ietf-isis- reverse-metric. 6.2 Extending Last Calls around/during IETF Meetings (Secretariat) The management issue was discussed. The Secretariat will automatically extend any Last Call that would normally end during the period between the first day of the IETF meeting and the date that falls 7 days after the last day of the IETF meeting by one week. 6.3 Secondary expert for the Personal Assertion Token (PASSporT) Extensions registry (Adam Roach) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> as a secondary expert for the Personal Assertion Token (PASSporT) Extensions registry. 6.4 IESG appointment to the IETF Trust (Alissa Cooper) The management issue was discussed. 7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.) 8. Tools Team Report -- 30 October 2018 1. Datatracker Projects - The merge plan was recently updated. -- See http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/MergePlan -- None of the upcoming activities are surprising or need extra coordination. - GDPR Compliance -- Two email messages for people to give consent for information in the datatracker went out, as planned. Deletion of Datatracker accounts that have not provided opt-in is still pending, and it is expected to happen in early November. 2. Community & Other Projects - The Tools Team is working to discontinue MonArch email archives. This will allow all of the mail-related tools to work from one copy of the archives in maildir format. So far, the responses from the community have been positive. The distribution was expanded to include the IRSG. Planning will begin shortly after IETF 103. 3. RFC Services Projects - RFC Format contracts are on schedule: -- IDnits -- Publication Formatter -- Text Submission -- RFClint -- SVGcheck -- XMLdiff - Release of xml2rfc 2.12.0 introduces the HTML formatter and the new v3 vocabulary. 4. Server Infrastructure - The custom DMARC-handling software was deployed for all mail lists in June. We received very positive feedback from the community. - There is a desire to move away from the custom software to ARC, but the ARC software cannot be configured to handle just a few of our mail lists. Henrik provided requirements to the ARC developers, but so far, they have not offered a release date. Alexey offered to help get a response. - There are three updates to www.ietf.org underway with Torchbox. First, upgrade the version of Wagtail from 1.12.1 to 2.2.2 was expected in October, but it is delayed until November. Second, changes to the home page display based on feedback received from the IETF community, which includes adding email archive search to the page, is complete. Third, the addition of an RSS feed for the IETF Blog is expected to be complete by the end of October. 5. YANG Catalog - Final deliverables for the recent project to improve the YANG catalog are being completed. - Once those are finished, the operation of the yangcatalog.org will be transferred to the IETF Secretariat. The current expectation is that will happen at the end of the year. However, if we learn that more development is needed to facilitate the transition, it will wait for 2019, where the budget includes some funds for the YANG catalog. - Moving to a tools-team-driven model for maintenance of the YANG catalog in 2019. - Requirements for new features are being gathered by Eric and Benoit for future development efforts. 6. Other Business - The IESG decided to allow I-Ds with non-ascii characters in places other than names to be posted. -- Release of IDnits 2.16.0 implemented this policy change. - The IMAP server code that is provided by ISODE does not handle changed usernames well. When a person changed their username, the IMAP server noticed the change, but all saved IMAP state was lost. Changing the username back recovered the state. Alexey has written a fix, but it has not been released yet. 6. Parking Lot - Prepare the RFC Production Center code for publication. -- Maybe this can get some attention when the six RFC Format tools are posted in an open source repository. ----------------------------------------------- * Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.