Minutes interim-2018-iesg-25 2018-12-20 15:00
minutes-interim-2018-iesg-25-201812201500-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the December 20, 2018 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES 
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Ignas Bagdonas (Equinix) /  Operations and Management Area
Ben Campbell (Oracle) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison 
Spencer Dawkins (Wonder Hamster Internetworking) / Transport Area
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Ted Hardie (Google) / IAB Chair
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area
Suresh Krishnan (Kaloom) / Internet Area
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Terry Manderson (ICANN) / Internet Area
Alexey Melnikov / Applications and Real-Time Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Alexa Morris (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Eric Rescorla (Mozilla) / Security Area
Alvaro Retana (Huawei) / Routing Area
Adam Roach (Mozilla) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Jeff Tantsura (Apstra) / IAB Liaison (WebEx only, not audio)
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

REGRETS 
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Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / IETF Chair, General Area
Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Mirja Kuehlewind (ETH Zurich) / Transport Area
Portia Wenze-Danley (ISOC) / Interim LLC Executive Director

OBSERVERS
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Greg Wood

MINUTES 
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1. Administrivia 
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the December 6, 2018 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the December 6, 2018 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the December 6, 2018 IESG Teleconference 
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-dnsop-session-signal-20  (Proposed Standard)
    
1.2.2 Document Actions
  NONE
    
1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  o Deborah Brungard to draft text to the WG Chairs list on the subject 
    of community relations, including information about what avenues are 
    open to chairs for escalating issues.
  o Spencer Dawkins to send a request to the tools team to set up a 
    mechanism by which documents that have been newly adopted into 
    working groups are automatically announced to the community as being 
    newly adopted.

IN PROGRESS:
  o Eric Rescorla to find designated experts for RFC 8411 [IANA 
    #1120853].
    - Added 2018-08-29 (7 telechats ago) 
  o Eric Rescorla to find designated experts for RFC 6509 
    (mikey-payloads) [IANA #1121057].
    - Added 2018-08-30 (6 telechats ago) 
  o Eric Rescorla to find designated experts for RFC 6043
    (mikey-payloads) [IANA #1121239].
    - Added 2018-08-31 (6 telechats ago) 
  o Eric Rescorla to find designated experts for RFC 6267
    (mikey-payloads) [IANA #1121240].
    - Added 2018-08-31 (6 telechats ago) 
  o Eric Rescorla to find designated experts for RFC 6309
    (mikey-payloads) [IANA #1121241].
    - Added 2018-08-31 (6 telechats ago) 
  o Alvaro Retana to follow up on discussion at IETF 103 about putting 
    major discussion points and decisions in the IESG Wiki.
    - Added 2018-11-21 (2 telechats ago) 
  o Alvaro Retana to follow up on how to document decisions made during 
    face-to-face IESG conversations.
    - Added 2018-11-21 (2 telechats ago) 
  o Alissa Cooper to draft text informing the community about the 
    ongoing discussion with the WG chairs about community relations, 
    including information about what avenues are open to community 
    members for escalating issues.
    - Added 2018-11-29 (1 telechat ago) 
  o Alvaro Retana to send email to the IESG with proposed re-labeling of 
    scheduling conflicts.
    - Added 2018-12-06 (1 telechat ago)
  o Alissa Cooper to follow up with Michelle Cotton and Barry Leiba to 
    update RFC 8126 to detail what information should be included in the 
    IANA Registry.
    - Added 2018-12-13 (0 telechats ago)
  o Alexey Melnikov to find designated experts experts for RFC 5435 
    [IANA #1132764].
    - Added 2018-12-18 (0 telechats ago)

NEW:
  NONE

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items 
  o draft-ietf-ntp-bcp-10  - IETF stream
    Network Time Protocol Best Current Practices (Best Current Practice) 
    - 1 of 6
    Token: Suresh Krishnan

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alissa Cooper, Benjamin Kaduk, and Eric Rescorla.*

  o draft-ietf-idr-te-pm-bgp-17  - IETF stream
    BGP-LS Advertisement of IGP Traffic Engineering Performance Metric
    Extensions (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 6
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

  o draft-ietf-alto-xdom-disc-04  - IETF stream
    Application Layer Traffic Optimization (ALTO) Cross-Domain Server
    Discovery (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 6
    Token: Mirja Kuehlewind

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk, Suresh Krishnan, and Eric Rescorla.*

  o draft-ietf-mpls-rsvp-shared-labels-07  - IETF stream
    Signaling RSVP-TE tunnels on a shared MPLS forwarding plane
    (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 6
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alvaro Retana.*

  o draft-ietf-lsr-isis-rfc7810bis-04  - IETF stream
    IS-IS Traffic Engineering (TE) Metric Extensions (Proposed Standard) 
    - 5 of 6
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Alvaro Retana confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-httpbis-cdn-loop-01  - IETF stream
    CDN Loop Prevention (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 6
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Eric Rescorla.*

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
  NONE

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  o draft-wilde-service-link-rel-08  - IETF stream
    Link Relation Types for Web Services (Informational) - 1 of 2
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

  o draft-wilde-sunset-header-08  - IETF stream
    The Sunset HTTP Header (Informational) - 2 of 2
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Alexey Melnikov. The Secretariat will send an individual 
submission Document Action Announcement.

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  o conflict-review-browne-sfc-nsh-kpi-stamp-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-browne-sfc-nsh-kpi-stamp
      draft-browne-sfc-nsh-kpi-stamp-06
      A Key Performance Indicators (KPI) Stamping for the Network
    Service Header (NSH) (ISE: Informational) - 1 of 4
    Token: Martin Vigoureux

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response 
prepared by Martin Vigoureux.

  o conflict-review-contreras-layered-sdn-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-contreras-layered-sdn
      draft-contreras-layered-sdn-03
      Cooperating Layered Architecture for Software Defined Networking
    (CLAS) (ISE: Informational) - 2 of 4
    Token: Ignas Bagdonas

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response 
prepared by Ignas Bagdonas.

  o conflict-review-irtf-nfvrg-gaps-network-virtualization-00
    IETF conflict review for
    draft-irtf-nfvrg-gaps-network-virtualization
      draft-irtf-nfvrg-gaps-network-virtualization-10
      Network Virtualization Research Challenges (IRTF: Informational) - 
    3 of 4
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The 
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that 
includes a conflict review response prepared by Deborah Brungard.

  o conflict-review-irtf-cfrg-gcmsiv-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-cfrg-gcmsiv
      draft-irtf-cfrg-gcmsiv-09
      AES-GCM-SIV: Nonce Misuse-Resistant Authenticated Encryption
    (IRTF: Informational) - 4 of 4
    Token: Eric Rescorla

The document was removed from the agenda prior to the start of the 
teleconference.

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues
6.1 [IANA #1132764] Designated experts for RFC 5435 (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. An action item to find designated 
experts experts for RFC 5435 was assigned to Alexey Melnikov prior to 
the start of the teleconference.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)


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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.