Minutes interim-2019-cellar-04: Tue 20:00
minutes-interim-2019-cellar-04-201905282000-00

Meeting Minutes Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission (cellar) WG
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Meeting Minutes
minutes-interim-2019-cellar-04-201905282000

   CELLAR -- DRAFT AGENDA for Virtual Interim Meeting
May 28, 2019        20:00 UTC

INFO:
   https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-cellar-04/session/cellar
   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2019-cellar-04-sessa/

WEB CONFERENCE:
   https://appear.in/cellar-interim
   THERE IS NO TELEPHONE DIALIN
   You can try this at any time.
   These notes at: https://github.com/cellar-wg/chair-notes

Present:
        1) michael richardson
        2) Steve Lhomme
        3) Martin Below
        4) Jerome Martinez
        5) Dave Rice
        6)  Michael Niedermayer

Proposed Agenda:

1. Note Well.
2. Accept draft minutes from April 2 meeting

3. Logistics for Meeting.
   2a) Etherpad for notes
       https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/notes-cellar-virtual?useMonospaceFont=true

   2b) APPEAR.IN for video and screen sharing.
       https://appear.in/cellar-interim
       (as agreed last meeting)

   2c) Roll call

4. WG status update
   - EBML seems to be getting some additional edits, is it done?
     These were the issues that are waiting for clarification:
        https://github.com/Matroska-Org/ebml-specification/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Aclarifications
     We still have a few open.  Can we close them now?
     Dave Rice expected to push version 10....
     VERSION 10 released 2019-05-28
     (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cellar-ebml/10/).  Merged
     many issues. This addresses AD issues from Ben Campbell and Robert
     Sparks.... remaining 2
      11.1.11.  XML Schema for EBML Schema (Dave volunteers to complete this)
            The following "XSD" definition is in  (add W3C citation), and can
            be used to validate an EBML Schema using

        The use of unknown-size requires to know the EBML Schema. Add an
        example of unknown-size element.

        Michael will contact Martin in the coming days/weeks to work on his
        large chapter pull request.

5. Matroska document changes since last meeting.
   https://github.com/cellar-wg/matroska-specification/issues
   Can we close some of these, and/or get them sorted and prioritized?

   a) Dave Rice to post request for volunteers, offers to mentor.
   b) MCR to mentor Martin on github-fu
   c) all to review pull requests on Matroska, look for conflicts and
   *discussion* (new tag) that we can go through next time. d) MCR to ping
   Moritz about next time.

6. Started 4-week adopting call for Free Lossless Audio Codec
      draft-weaver-cellar-flac-00
   will end at next virtual-interim meeting.

           please post your opinion about the document? Does it fit into what
           the charter asked for?

Q: ffv1. last meeting new AD?
A: we are waiting for feedback.
ACTION: mcr to bug AD about ffv1.

meeting ended 16:55.

====== minutes from April
CELLAR -- DRAFT AGENDA for Virtual Interim Meeting
April 2, 2019        20:00 UTC

DRAFT MINUTES FROM 2019-02-26 below

INFO:
   https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-cellar-03/session/cellar
   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2019-cellar-03-sessa/

WEB CONFERENCE:
   https://appear.in/cellar-interim
   THERE IS NO TELEPHONE DIALIN
   You can try this at any time.
   These notes at: https://github.com/cellar-wg/chair-notes

Attendees:
* Michael Richardson
* Steve Lhomme
* Jérôme Martinez
* Michael Niedermayer
* sign-in here

Names for above:
* Dave Rice (regrets)

Proposed Agenda:

1. Note Well.
        https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/

2. Accept draft minutes from February meeting
      see them here, and in email:
      https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2019-cellar-03-sessa/
      agreed without objections.

3. Logistics for Meeting.
   2a) Etherpad for notes
       https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/notes-cellar-virtual?useMonospaceFont=true

   2b) APPEAR.IN for video and screen sharing.
       https://appear.in/cellar-interim
       (as agreed last meeting)

   2c) Roll call

4. WG status update
   - EBML is waiting on AD to proceed
           version 10 is pending, and waiting for some review of this.
        These are the issues that are waiting for clarification.
        https://github.com/Matroska-Org/ebml-specification/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Aclarifications
           Dave Rice to push version 10.

           version 10 to be produced with with closed issues, including
           formatting changes, and a version 11 with not yet discussed. summary
           on what was fixed:
          with links to PRs and explanations for each
        goal to have this out this first week of April.

   - FFv1 is past WGLC and awaits AD attention
   - new AD is Alexey.Melnikov at isode.com

5. use of cellar-wg organization
        ebml and matroska repo will be moved to cellar-wg organization.

6. issues raised and/or closed since Feb 26

-- are we ready for WG adoption on FLAC document?