Minutes interim-2019-iesg-05 2019-02-21 15:00
minutes-interim-2019-iesg-05-201902211500-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the February 21, 2019 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES 
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Ignas Bagdonas (Equinix) /  Operations and Management Area
Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Ben Campbell (Oracle) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / IETF Chair, General Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison 
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Incoming Security Area
Spencer Dawkins (Wonder Hamster Internetworking) / Transport Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Ted Hardie (Google) / IAB Chair
Suresh Krishnan (Kaloom) / Internet Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (ETH Zurich) / Transport Area
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Barry Leiba (Huawei) / Incoming Applications and Real-Time Area
Alexey Melnikov / Applications and Real-Time Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Colin Perkins / incoming IRTF Chair
Eric Rescorla (Mozilla) / Security Area
Alvaro Retana (Huawei) / Routing Area
Adam Roach (Mozilla) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Jeff Tantsura (Apstra) / IAB Liaison 
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Incoming Transport Area

REGRETS 
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Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area
Terry Manderson (ICANN) / Internet Area
Portia Wenze-Danley (ISOC) / Interim LLC Executive Director
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Incoming Internet Area

OBSERVERS
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Greg Wood
Dan York

MINUTES 
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1. Administrivia 
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the February 7, 2019 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the February 7, 2019 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the February 7, 2019 IESG Teleconference 

1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-mpls-rsvp-shared-labels-09  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-softwire-yang-16  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
  o draft-ietf-v6ops-transition-ipv4aas-15  (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  o Alissa Cooper to schedule a discussion about selecting the IESG's 
    liaison to the IAB.

IN PROGRESS:
  o Alvaro Retana to send email to the IESG with proposed re-labeling of 
    scheduling conflicts.
  o Suresh Krishnan to discuss naming experts for the registries created 
    by draft-irtf-icnrg-ccnxsemantics with Allison Mankin.
  o Ben Campbell to write up text on the IESG's expectations regarding 
    conflicts of interest and the disclosure of funding sources.
  o Warren Kumari and Spencer Dawkins to develop the spherical routing 
    topic. 
  o Suresh Krishnan to draft a new proposed IESG Statement on the 
    procedure to reference material behind a paywall, that includes the 
    existing text and adds comments from the discussion, Eric Rescorla, 
    and Barry Leiba.
  o Roman Danyliw and Barry Leiba to identify and catalogue common
    problematic and inappropriate behaviors from individuals in the IETF
    community both at in-person meetings and on email lists.

NEW:
  NONE

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items 
  o draft-ietf-rtcweb-fec-08  - IETF stream
    WebRTC Forward Error Correction Requirements (Proposed Standard) - 1 
    of 8
    Token: Adam Roach

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Adam Roach confirms that the announcement is ready to 
be sent.

  o draft-ietf-perc-srtp-ekt-diet-09  - IETF stream
    Encrypted Key Transport for DTLS and Secure RTP (Proposed Standard) 
    - 2 of 8
    Token: Ben Campbell

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk and Alexey Melnikov.*

  o draft-ietf-detnet-architecture-11  - IETF stream
    Deterministic Networking Architecture (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 8
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alissa Cooper, Benjamin Kaduk, Mirja Kuehlewind, and 
Alvaro Retana.*


  o draft-ietf-tsvwg-le-phb-09 (Has RFC Editor Note)  - IETF stream
    A Lower Effort Per-Hop Behavior (LE PHB) (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 
    8
    Token: Spencer Dawkins

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Spencer Dawkins confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-jmap-core-14  - IETF stream
    JSON Meta Application Protocol (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 8
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alissa Cooper, Benjamin Kaduk, Mirja Kuehlewind, Eric 
Rescorla and Adam Roach.*

  o draft-ietf-jmap-mail-14  - IETF stream
    JMAP for Mail (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 8
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Eric Rescorla and Adam Roach.*

  o draft-ietf-uta-smtp-require-tls-07  - IETF stream
    SMTP Require TLS Option (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 8
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document was deferred to the next teleconference (March 7, 2019) 
by Alexey Melnikov.

  o draft-ietf-payload-flexible-fec-scheme-17  - IETF stream
    RTP Payload Format for Flexible Forward Error Correction (FEC)
    (Proposed Standard) - 8 of 8
    Token: Ben Campbell

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items    
  o draft-nottingham-rfc5785bis-08  - IETF stream
    Well-Known Uniform Resource Identifiers (URIs) (Proposed Standard) - 
    1 of 1
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
  o draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-mobility-16  - IETF stream
    On Demand Mobility Management (Informational) - 1 of 2
    Token: Suresh Krishnan

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alissa Cooper and Mirja Kuehlewind.*

  o draft-ietf-dots-requirements-18  - IETF stream
    Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) Open Threat Signaling
    Requirements (Informational) - 2 of 2
    Token: Benjamin Kaduk

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Suresh Krishnan, Mirja Kuehlewind, and Eric Rescorla.*

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  o conflict-review-jenkins-cnsa-cert-crl-profile-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-jenkins-cnsa-cert-crl-profile
      draft-jenkins-cnsa-cert-crl-profile-06
      Commercial National Security Algorithm (CNSA) Suite Certificate
    and Certificate Revocation List (CRL) Profile (ISE: Informational) - 
    1 of 2
    Token: Benjamin Kaduk

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response 
prepared by Benjamin Kaduk.

  o conflict-review-vandesompel-citeas-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-vandesompel-citeas
      draft-vandesompel-citeas-04
      cite-as: A Link Relation to Convey a Preferred URI for
    Referencing (ISE: Informational) - 2 of 2
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response 
prepared by Alexey Melnikov.

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 Removal of 2 very old registries (gstn-info and publisher-id) (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved removing the 
registries for gstn-info and publisher-id.

6.2 IETF 104 Preliminary Agenda Conflict Resolution (Liz Flynn)

The management issue was discussed.

6.3 Executive Session: Confirmation of IAB appointment to ISOC BoT 
    (Spencer Dawkins)

The management issue was discussed in an executive session. The IESG 
confirmed the IAB's candidate for the Internet Society Board of 
Trustees.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)




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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.