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Date and time 2019-05-16 14:00
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the May 16, 2019 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Ignas Bagdonas (Equinix) /  Operations and Management Area
Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Suresh Krishnan (Kaloom) / Internet Area
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Barry Leiba (Futurewei Technologies) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Alexey Melnikov / Applications and Real-Time Area
Adam Roach (Mozilla) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area

REGRETS
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Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / IETF Chair, General Area
Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor
Wes Hardaker (USC/ISI) / IAB Liaison
Ted Hardie (Google) / IAB Chair
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / Transport Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Portia Wenze-Danley (ISOC) / Interim LLC Executive Director

OBSERVERS
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Cullen Jennings
Suhas
Greg Wood


MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the May 2, 2019 Teleconference were approved. The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the May 2, 2019 Teleconference were
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the May 2, 2019 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions


1.2.2 Document Actions

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:

NONE

UPDATED:

  o Barry Leiba to write up text on the IESG's expectations regarding
    conflicts of interest and the disclosure of funding sources.
  o Alissa Cooper and Alexa Morris take the results of the doodle poll
    for a second 2019 IESG retreat (possibly combined with the IAB) and
    look at cost effective places.


IN PROGRESS:

  o Suresh Krishnan to discuss naming experts for the registries created
    by draft-irtf-icnrg-ccnxsemantics with Colin Perkins.
  o Ignas Bagdonas to propose an additional question on YANG Model
    format validation for each of the styles of document write-ups.
  o Roman Danyliw to talk to the tools team to reset the counters on
    substate change for documents in AD Evaluation.
  o Roman Danyliw to draft text to be posted on ietf.org about reporting
    protocol vulnerabilities via an email alias and possible procedures
    on how to assign triage resources.
  o Suresh Krishnan to write a document on replacing the "updates" with
    new terminology (amends/amended by; extends/extended by; see also).
  o Warren Kumari and Ted Hardie to write a document on Implementation
    Target Sets (aka Living Documents).
  o Roman Danyliw and Barry Leiba to draft a starting point for the
    discussion on setting expectations with the WG Chairs in reference
    to responses to inappropriate or unacceptable behaviors.
  o Martin Vigoureux to work with the IESG to create a list of possible
    IESG Tutorials and will prioritize them for scheduling on a series
    of Informal Telechats.
  o All IESG to coordinate with their co-ADs and send a list of specific
    "hot topic" items that should be checked. The list to be provided
    for document authors.
  o Eric Vyncke to write up draft text for the NomCom to help them
    understand the rules for the NomCom.
  o Suresh Krishnan to write up a NomCom Chair BCP (work with past
    chairs).
  o Eric Vyncke to draft text for a more coherent BoF Proposal for
    MEDIA OPS and add to the BoF Wiki.
  o Roman Danyliw to shepherd the www.ietf.org analytics discussion
    with the community.
  o Warren Kumari, Alvaro Retana, and Mirja Kuehlewind with Spencer
    Dawkins to continue discussion of the next Deep Dive topic for
    IETF 105.
  o Suresh Krishnan to update the text for material behind a paywall
    to update the reference to section 7.1; update the document shepherd
    writeup; and draft text for a possible IESG statement to circulate
    with the WG Chairs.
  o Alexey Melnikov, Warren Kumari, and Suresh Krishnan to work with the
    authors of draft-moonesamy-recall-rev on next steps.
  o Alexey Melnikov to find designated experts for RFC-ietf-core-object-
    security [IANA #1141664].
  o Alissa to report back on the discussion about the Meeting Room
    Policy at LLC Board retreat.
  o Alvaro Retana to finalize the proposal for relabeling the IETF
    Meeting Agenda Conflicts, and discuss the proposal with the WG
    Chairs.

NEW:

  o Alexey Melnikov to find designated experts for RFC 8554 [IANA #1142796].


2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items

  o draft-ietf-perc-double-10  - IETF stream
    SRTP Double Encryption Procedures (Proposed Standard) 1 of 9
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

Adam Roach formally recused himself from the discussion. The document
remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised
by Magnus Westerlund.*


  o draft-ietf-6lo-deadline-time-04  - IETF stream
    Packet Delivery Deadline time in 6LoWPAN Routing Header (Proposed
    Standard) 2 of 9
    Token: Suresh Krishnan

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alissa Cooper, Barry Leiba, and Magnus Westerlund.*

  o draft-ietf-perc-private-media-framework-10  - IETF stream
    A Solution Framework for Private Media in Privacy Enhanced RTP
    Conferencing (Proposed Standard) 3 of 9
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw and Magnus Westerlund.*


  o draft-ietf-idr-bgpls-segment-routing-epe-19  - IETF stream
    BGP-LS extensions for Segment Routing BGP Egress Peer Engineering
    (Proposed Standard) 4 of 9
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Alvaro Retana. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note.

  o draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensions-24  - IETF stream
    IS-IS Extensions for Segment Routing (Proposed Standard) 5 of 9
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw.*

  o draft-ietf-pce-hierarchy-extensions-10  - IETF stream
    Extensions to Path Computation Element Communication Protocol
    (PCEP) for Hierarchical Path Computation Elements (PCE) (Proposed
    Standard) 6 of 9
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Deborah Brungard. The Secretariat will send a working
group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC
Editor Note.

  o draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-notif-13  - IETF stream
    Dynamic subscription to YANG Events and Datastores over RESTCONF
    (Proposed Standard) 7 of 9
    Token: Ignas Bagdonas

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw, Benjamin Kaduk, and Adam Roach.*

  o draft-ietf-netconf-netconf-event-notifications-21  - IETF stream
    Dynamic subscription to YANG Events and Datastores over NETCONF
    (Proposed Standard) 8 of 9
    Token: Ignas Bagdonas

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw.*

  o draft-ietf-mptcp-rfc6824bis-15  - IETF stream
    TCP Extensions for Multipath Operation with Multiple Addresses
    (Proposed Standard) 9 of 9
    Token: Mirja K├╝hlewind

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alissa Cooper.*

2.1.2 Returning items

  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items

  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items

  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items

  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items

  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items

  o draft-ietf-pce-applicability-actn-11  - IETF stream
    Applicability of the Path Computation Element (PCE) to the
    Abstraction and Control of TE Networks (ACTN) (Informational) 1 of 2
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Deborah Brungard. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note.


  o draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-13  - IETF stream
    The TACACS+ Protocol (Informational) 2 of 2
    Token: Ignas Bagdonas

Warren Kumari recused himself from the discussion. The document remains
under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Alissa
Cooper, Roman Danyliw, Barry Leiba, Alexey Melnikov, and Adam Roach.*

3.1.2 Returning items

  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items

  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items

  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items

  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items

  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

  NONE

3.4.2 Returning items

  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval

  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review

  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval

  o Limited Additional Mechanisms for PKIX and SMIME (lamps) 1 of 1
  Area: SEC (Roman Danyliw)

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group. The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1142796] Designated experts for RFC 8554 (IANA)

The management issue was discussed.
Action Item: Alexey Melnikov to find designated experts for RFC 8554.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)




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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.