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minutes-interim-2019-iesg-17-201908221400-00
INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the August 22, 2019 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES 
--------------------------------- 
Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / IETF Chair, General Area
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Wes Hardaker (USC/ISI) / IAB Liaison
Ted Hardie (Google) / IAB Chair
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area
Suresh Krishnan (Kaloom) / Internet Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / Transport Area
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Barry Leiba (Futurewei Technologies) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Alexey Melnikov / Applications and Real-Time Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Adam Roach (Mozilla) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area

REGRETS 
---------------------------------
Ignas Bagdonas (Equinix) /  Operations and Management Area
Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor
Portia Wenze-Danley (ISOC) / Interim LLC Executive Director
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area

OBSERVERS
--------------------------------- 
Dominique Barthel
Jenny Bui
Brian Campbell
Erik Kline
Pascal Thubert
Greg Wood

MINUTES 
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1. Administrivia 
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the August 8, 2019 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the August 8, 2019 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the August 8, 2019 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-mmusic-rfc4566bis-37  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-mmusic-ice-sip-sdp-39  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-uks-07  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-dots-data-channel-31  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-52  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-notif-15  (Proposed Standard)

    
1.2.2 Document Actions
  o draft-ietf-rtgwg-enterprise-pa-multihoming-12  (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  o Suresh Krishnan to write up a NomCom Chair BCP (work with past 
    chairs).
  o Alvaro Retana to finalize the proposal for relabeling the IETF 
    Meeting Agenda Conflicts, and discuss the proposal with the WG 
    Chairs.
  o Alvaro Retana to find designated experts for RFC 5613 [IANA 
    #1147782].

IN PROGRESS:
  o Ignas Bagdonas to propose an additional question on YANG Model 
    format validation for each of the styles of document write-ups.
  o Roman Danyliw to draft text to be posted on ietf.org about reporting 
    protocol vulnerabilities via an email alias and possible procedures 
    on how to assign triage resources. 
  o Martin Vigoureux to work with the IESG to create a list of possible 
    IESG Tutorials and will prioritize them for scheduling on a series 
    of Informal Telechats. 
  o Eric Vyncke to write up draft text for the NomCom to help them 
    understand the rules for the NomCom.
  o Roman Danyliw to shepherd the www.ietf.org analytics discussion 
    with the community.
  o Alexey Melnikov to find designated experts for RFC-ietf-core-object-
    security [IANA #1141664].
  o Alexey Melnikov to find designated experts for RFC 8554 [IANA 
    #1142796].
  o Alexey Melnikov to find designated experts for RFC 8610 [IANA 
    #1145107].
  o Ignas Bagdonas to find designated experts for RFC 7317 [IANA 
    #1146017].
  o Adam Roach to collate the list of specific "hot topic" items from 
    each Area that will be provided to document authors and post it on 
    the wiki.
  o Barry Leiba to come up with a proposal for moving Last Call 
    discussions to a separate mailing list.
  o Suresh Krishnan to ask Heather F and Sandy G to introduce the 
    Updates Tags Document (draft-kuehlewind-update-tag) to the RFC-
    Interest email list for discussion, and inform the community via the 
    IETF discussion list with a pointer to RFC-Interest.
  o Adam Roach to send a message to the tools team cc Roman as 
    liaison about removing the required date associated with milestones 
    on WG Charters.

NEW:
  NONE

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
  o draft-ietf-manet-dlep-lid-extension-05  - IETF stream
    DLEP Link Identifier Extension (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 7
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Suresh Krishnan.*

  o draft-ietf-oauth-mtls-16  - IETF stream
    OAuth 2.0 Mutual TLS Client Authentication and Certificate-Bound
    Access Tokens (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 7
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

  o draft-ietf-lpwan-ipv6-static-context-hc-21  - IETF stream
    Static Context Header Compression (SCHC) and fragmentation for
    LPWAN, application to UDP/IPv6 (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 7
    Token: Suresh Krishnan

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw, Benjamin Kaduk, and Eric Vyncke.*

  o draft-ietf-ospf-yang-26  - IETF stream
    YANG Data Model for OSPF Protocol (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 7
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw and Benjamin Kaduk.*

  o draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-types-10  - IETF stream
    Traffic Engineering Common YANG Types (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 7
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

  o draft-ietf-lamps-cms-mix-with-psk-06  - IETF stream
    Using Pre-Shared Key (PSK) in the Cryptographic Message Syntax
    (CMS) (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 7
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

  o draft-ietf-opsec-urpf-improvements-03  - IETF stream
    Enhanced Feasible-Path Unicast Reverse Path Filtering (Best Current
    Practice) - 7 of 7
    Token: Warren Kumari

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alvaro Retana.*

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
  o draft-ietf-tls-grease-03  - IETF stream
    Applying GREASE to TLS Extensibility (Informational) - 1 of 2
    Token: Benjamin Kaduk

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk on behalf of IANA.*

  o draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc2031bis-05  - IETF stream
    The IETF-ISOC Relationship (Informational) - 2 of 2
    Token: Alissa Cooper

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action 
Announcement once Alissa Cooper confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  o conflict-review-lewis-domain-names-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-lewis-domain-names
      draft-lewis-domain-names-13
      RFC Origins of Domain Names (ISE: Informational) - 1 of 3
    Token: Warren Kumari

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response 
prepared by Warren Kumari.

  o conflict-review-bruckert-brainpool-for-tls13-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-bruckert-brainpool-for-tls13
      draft-bruckert-brainpool-for-tls13-05
      ECC Brainpool Curves for Transport Layer Security (TLS) Version
    1.3 (ISE: Informational) - 2 of 3
    Token: Benjamin Kaduk

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response 
prepared by Benjamin Kaduk.

  o conflict-review-sekar-dns-llq-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-sekar-dns-llq
      draft-sekar-dns-llq-05
      DNS Long-Lived Queries (ISE: Informational) - 3 of 3
    Token: Eric Vyncke

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response 
prepared by Eric Vyncke.

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  o Concise Binary Object Representation Maintenance and Extensions 
    (cbor) - 1 of 1
    Area: ART (Alexey Melnikov)

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement. 

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 Designated Experts for Media Type Sub-Parameter Registry for video/
    raw (Barry Leiba)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Roni Even 
<roni.even@huawei.com> and Ali Begen <ali.begen@networked.media> as the 
designated experts for the Media Type Sub-Parameter Registry for video/
raw.

6.2 [IANA #1149474] renewing early allocations for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-
    igmp-mld-proxy (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early 
allocations for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy.

6.3 [IANA #1149477] renewing early allocations for draft-ietf-idr-
    segment-routing-te-policy (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early 
allocations for draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy.

6.4 [IANA #1147782] Designated experts for RFC 5613 (Alvaro Retana)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Gunter Van De 
Velde <gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com>) and Peter Psenak 
<ppsenak@cisco.com> as the designated experts for RFC 5613.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.