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Meeting Minutes A Semantic Definition Format for Data and Interactions of Things (asdf) WG
Date and time 2020-11-02 18:00
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minutes-interim-2020-asdf-01-202011021800-00

ASDF -- DRAFT AGENDA for Virtual Interim Meeting

Nov  2, 2020     ****  18:00 UTC
                       19:00 Berlin/Paris/CET
                       13:00 NYC
                       10:00 San Francisco

INFO:

MEETING INFO: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-asdf-01/session/asdf

AGENDA: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2020-asdf-01-sessa/

jabber:   xmpp:asdf@jabber.ietf.org

WEB CONFERENCE:
https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m453af1f5a6ea01ce51f802bbcca6a0ca

These notes at: https://github.com/ietf-wg-asdf/asdf-working-group-notes.git

BLUE SHEET
1. Barry Leiba
2. Ari Keränen
3. Niklas Widell
4. Carsten Bormann
5. Michael Richardson
6. Alan Soloway

Expected Michael Koster, and Wouter (@Cisco)

Agenda:

1. Note Well. https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/

2. Logistics for Meeting.

2a) CodiMD for notes

https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-ietf-interim-2020-asdf-01-asdf?edit

2b) WEBEX for speaking.

https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m453af1f5a6ea01ce51f802bbcca6a0ca

2c) Roll call/Blue sheet

Agenda accepted: need to do virtual interim doodle for post-IETF109.

3. WG status update

NOW CHARTERED

IETF109, 2hr slow requested, Tuesday at 09:00 UTC.

3a. Welcome and discussion of WG proceedures

https://github.com/ietf-wg-asdf/

4. Adoption of SDF 1.0 draft

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-onedm-t2trg-sdf/

Now adopted without objection after 2 week Adoption Call.

5. Issues

https://github.com/one-data-model/SDF/issues

https://github.com/ietf-wg-asdf/SDF/issues

Much discussion about choices and examples.
"brightnessWithColorTone" (slide 13)
CB will generate the example first, and then once we have consensus on it, generate the text that goes around it.

Aggregation discussion:
proposal makes sense, but needs running code.

[slide16]: issue/3: share elements inside and outside spec
use JSON pointers, but haven't tested this out.

[slide17]: length, can be no negative lengths, but sometimes,
"has a minimum of 5cm"
-> slide18, uses the datatype, and is then extended.

[slide19]: Ari will write some comments about "level", in particular as to how it relates to UIs.
Noted how light and sound have non-linear ranges (db, )

SDF 1.1 features slide.
* first strawmen by the end of November.
* all of December to nail this down.

How can we reach out to other IoT ecosystems, and find out how to do this?

  • OPC UA?
  • Automotive ecosystem?

Dec. 14 might be a good date.

Ari asks about backlog for 1.2: about adding more about descriptions?

6. AOB

Nothing

Meeting was ended