Minutes interim-2020-cbor-14: Wed 17:00
minutes-interim-2020-cbor-14-202009021700-00

CBOR WG Meeting - Interim 20-14
Wednesday, Sept 2, 2020, 17:00 - 18:00 CEST
Chairs: Francesca Palombini, Jim Schaad

Recordings: TBD

Bluesheet:
1. Francesca Palombini, Ericsson
2. Jim Schaad, August Cellar
3. Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works
4. Peter Yee, AKAYLA
5. Carsten Bormann, Universitaet Bremen TZI

Agenda:

* WG Documents status update:
    * draft-ietf-cbor-7049bis-14
    IESG telechat: 2020-09-10
    Need to find a position at some point on documentation of tag validation by
    implementers (SecDir revie)
        * MR: Points in review may be relevant.  Better to address points from
        the AD directly.  Partly depends on if he wants to engage in
        discussion. * CB: Had a bit of back and forth - ended Aug 11.  Pointer
        on mailing list
    Too wordy (genart review)

    * draft-ietf-cbor-date-tag-06
    IESG telechat: 2020-09-10
    * draft-ietf-cbor-tags-oid-00
    Like to understand the nesting issues.  Still trying to find some way that
    feels right. Need to continue discussion before deciding that may just need
    to "kill" the feature. MR: Feel a bit that the nesting issue is a solution
    seeking a problem. CB: Need to discuss with examples and not in a vacumm
    but still need to get JS: Last suggestions in a mail message.  Still don't
    really like any answer CB: Some remaiments in the document which was more
    sophisticated.  Not trying to do prefix compression, just treat all of
    these embedded values as if they are tagged. Example in figure 5 is
    factoring out the tag, not a part of the value. Alts are restricting the
    propation to nothing or by some set of rules. MR: Understands the rule to
    be that it applies to everything in an array and to key parts of a map. 
    Understand that it has no meaning applied to a text string or integer.  
    Don't know about thing that are already tagged. CB: Try to write it up with
    a specific proposal.

* Charter update
    * Chairs are looking for objections at this point.  (Most) people on call
    have indicated support. * Chairs did have a short discussion w/ Barry after
    IETF 108. * ACTION: Chairs will send to Barry for review.

* Adoption Calls
    * Looking at CDDL Control and CBOR Packed as documents.
    * If people don't have objects then just start the adoption calls now.
    * ACTION: CHairs to issue adoption calls for 2 weeks ending next interim.

* AoB
    * None.
    * Agenda for next meeting
        * IESG review comments
        * Update on tags OID
        * Adoption calls