Minutes interim-2020-cellar-03: Tue 21:00
minutes-interim-2020-cellar-03-202003312100-00

CELLAR -- DRAFT AGENDA for Virtual Interim Meeting
March  31, 2020
                                  21:00 Amsterdam  ***
                       19:00 UTC
                       15:00 NYC
                       12:00 San Francisco

Present:
        1. Michael Richardson
        1. Martin Below
        1. Steve Lhomme
        1. Jerome Martinez
        1. Spencer Dawkins
        1. Dave Rice
        1. Adam

INFO:
   https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-cellar-03/session/cellar
   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2020-cellar-03-cellar-01/

WEB CONFERENCE:
   https://whereby.com/cellar-interim
   THERE IS NO TELEPHONE DIALIN (You can try this at any time.)
   These notes at: https://github.com/cellar-wg/chair-notes

1. Note Well.  https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/
2. Accept draft minutes from January 28 meeting (attached below)
   (Feb. 25 meeting did not achieve quorum)
           accepted unanimously.

3. Logistics for Meeting.
   2a) Etherpad for notes
       https://etherpad.ietf.org/p/notes-cellar-virtual?useMonospaceFont=true

   2b) APPEAR.IN is now called "whereby.com"
       https://whereby.com/cellar-interim

   2c) Roll call

4. WG status update
   * EBML -- version 17 was posted 2020-01-27
             IESG approved it, and it is now in RFC-editor queue.
             IANA has reviewed it, created registries.
             Guestimate is that RFC-editor will complete work by end of March,
             maybe sooner.

    proposed Designated Experts: Primary:     Dave Rice
                                Secondary:   Steve Lhomme and Moritz Bunkus

   * FFV1 -- version 12 was posted 2020-01-28, AD waiting for our revisions.
              still waiting for new document.
              - plan to finish this week.
              -

5. FFV1 issues.

6. Work on Matroska issues.
        - reduced pull requests to 7 open, still 51 issues open.

NEXT MEETING April 28, 2020.

---- PREVIOUS NOTES

CELLAR -- DRAFT AGENDA for Virtual Interim Meeting
January  28, 2020      19:00 UTC
                       21:00 Amsterdam
                       15:00 NYC
                       12:00 San Francisco

PRESENT:
        1. Michael Richardson
        1. Spencer Dawkins
        1. Steve Lhomme
        1. Michael Niedermayer
        1. Jerome Martinez
        1. Dave Rice
        7. Martin Below

REGRETS:
        *

INFO:
   https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-cellar-01/session/cellar
   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2020-cellar-01-cellar-01/

WEB CONFERENCE:
   https://whereby.com/cellar-interim
   THERE IS NO TELEPHONE DIALIN (You can try this at any time.)
   These notes at: https://github.com/cellar-wg/chair-notes

1. Note Well.  https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/
2. Accept draft minutes from December 10 meeting (attached below)
        no objections or changes noted.

3. Logistics for Meeting.
   2a) Etherpad for notes
       https://etherpad.ietf.org/p/notes-cellar-virtual?useMonospaceFont=true

   2b) APPEAR.IN is now called "whereby.com"
       https://whereby.com/cellar-interim

   2c) Roll call

4. Welcome to Spencer Dawkins.

5. WG status update
   * EBML -- version 17 was posted 2020-01-27
      https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cellar-ebml/writeup/
      https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cellar-ebml/ballot/

    -17 believed to address all DISCUSS comments now.

   * FFV1 -- version 12 was posted 2020-1-28. Going to Adam Roach responsible AD
                                   doing review.

    - some issues made. Work is half-done.
    - Jerome will take the next move to close some of the To do items.

6. Work on Matroska issues.

** Start New Chapters Pull Request.
-> Conclusion that splitting chapters off into new document is not worth the
effort.

*** does not validate yet, but working on it.  More Text to explain what
Chapters do. *** pull request was too big, and has been split off into smaller
chunks to absorb.

Discussion: do we need some diagrams, etc. for the next meeting?
No: just go through some issues and deal with some concrete pull requests.
Updated, issue #354, that was lingering for some time because of EBML path
format, which is now clear in -17 of EBML, so now we can merge it.  It changes
half of the lines in the document, so need to do this now.

7. Any other business.

Next meeting: 2020-02-25.