Minutes interim-2020-iesg-05 2020-02-20 15:00
minutes-interim-2020-iesg-05-202002201500-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the February 20, 2020 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES 
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Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / IETF Chair, General Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Martin Duke / F5 Networks Inc / incoming Transport Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Wes Hardaker (USC/ISI) / IAB Liaison
Ted Hardie (Google) / IAB Chair
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area
Erik Kline / Loon LLC / incoming Internet Area
Suresh Krishnan (Kaloom) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy / Facebook / incoming Applications and Real-Time Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / Transport Area
Barry Leiba (Futurewei Technologies) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Alexey Melnikov / Applications and Real-Time Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Adam Roach (Mozilla) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area
Robert Wilton / Cisco Systems / incoming Operations and Management Area

REGRETS 
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Ignas Bagdonas (Equinix) /  Operations and Management Area
Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area

GUEST 
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Colin Perkins / IRTF Chair

OBSERVERS
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Ben Schwartz
Greg Wood

MINUTES 
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1. Administrivia 
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the February 6, 2020 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the February 6, 2020 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the February 6, 2020 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-08  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-intarea-provisioning-domains-11  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-pce-association-diversity-14  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
  NONE

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  o Martin Vigoureux to put together a proposal on disambiguating side 
    meetings from IETF meetings. 

DROPPED: 
  o Alexey Melnikov to think about how to analyze how successful WGs and 
    protocols are and why they failed or not. 

UPDATED: 
  o Alvaro Retana and Barry Leiba, with Warren Kumari, Alexey Melnikov, 
    Martin Vigoureux, and Roman Danyliw to work on more transparency in 
    the Datatracker about how long each phase of doc process takes / New 
    datatracker flag to indicate who has the ball: area directors, 
    authors, or chairs.

IN PROGRESS:
  o Roman Danyliw to draft text to be posted on ietf.org about reporting 
    protocol vulnerabilities via an email alias and possible procedures 
    on how to assign triage resources. 
  o Martin Vigoureux with Wes, and Alvaro to work on some
    mechanism to obtain wider or private feedback from people who are 
    disenfranchised; anonymous flagging of offensive emails to inform 
    leadership; more opportunities for private feedback.
  o Alexey Melnikov and Warren Kumari to add keyword tags to WG charters 
    to identify specs that pertain to some general concept.
  o Alvaro Retana to work on a framework for analyzing new proposals. 
  o Warren Kumari to work on acknowledging shepherds, directorate 
    reviewers in a more standardized/formal way.
  o Alexey Melnikov to organize IoT overview discussion with interested 
    ADs.
  o Alvaro Retana and Adam Roach to look at updating the I-D Checklist.
  o Eric Vyncke to write up draft text on Special Interest 
    Groups and send to the IESG for comment.
  o Ben Kaduk, Alvaro Retana, and Suresh Krishnan to skim the ietf@ietf 
    list and collect a list of topics that seem to be the major concerns 
    for the community from recent discussion threads.
  o Magnus Westerlund to draft an IESG Statement regarding the IETF 
    as the default change controller for IANA Registration requests.
  o Suresh Krishnan to draft a "best errata practices" document and 
    post it on the IESG Wiki.
  o Roman Danyliw to find designated experts for RFC 7636 [IANA 
    #1160634].
  o Suresh Krishnan to write a draft of an IoT Systems charter.
  o Alexey Melnikov to find designated experts for RFC-ietf-cellar-ebml  
    [IANA #1163482].
  o Suresh Krishnan to find designated experts for the IPv6 Low Power 
    Personal Area Network Parameters registries [IANA #1163481].

NEW:
  NONE

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
  o draft-ietf-dtn-tcpclv4-18  - IETF stream
    Delay-Tolerant Networking TCP Convergence Layer Protocol Version 4
    (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 9
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk, Suresh Krishnan, Mirja Kuehlewind, and 
Magnus Westerlund.*

  o draft-ietf-6tisch-enrollment-enhanced-beacon-13  - IETF stream
    IEEE 802.15.4 Information Element encapsulation of 6TiSCH Join and
    Enrollment Information (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 9
    Token: Suresh Krishnan

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alissa Cooper, Roman Danyliw, Warren Kumari, and Alvaro 
Retana.*

  o draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units-05  - IETF stream
    Additional Units for SenML (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 9
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alissa Cooper.*

  o draft-ietf-mpls-summary-frr-rsvpte-08  - IETF stream
    RSVP-TE Summary Fast Reroute Extensions for LSP Tunnels (Proposed
    Standard) - 4 of 9
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Deborah Brungard. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-6lo-backbone-router-16  - IETF stream
    IPv6 Backbone Router (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 9
    Token: Suresh Krishnan

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw and Benjamin Kaduk.*

  o draft-ietf-6lo-minimal-fragment-12  - IETF stream
    On Forwarding 6LoWPAN Fragments over a Multihop IPv6 Network
    (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 9
    Token: Suresh Krishnan

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

  o draft-ietf-6lo-fragment-recovery-13  - IETF stream
    6LoWPAN Selective Fragment Recovery (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 9
    Token: Suresh Krishnan

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk, Warren Kumari, and Mirja Kuehlewind.*

  o draft-ietf-nfsv4-rpcrdma-cm-pvt-data-07  - IETF stream
    RDMA Connection Manager Private Data For RPC-Over-RDMA Version 1
    (Proposed Standard) - 8 of 9
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Barry Leiba.*

  o draft-ietf-uta-tls-for-email-04  - IETF stream
    Deprecation of use of TLS 1.1 for Email Submission and Access
    (Proposed Standard) - 9 of 9
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Suresh Krishnan.*

2.1.2 Returning items    
  o draft-ietf-jmap-websocket-05  - IETF stream
    A JSON Meta Application Protocol (JMAP) Subprotocol for WebSocket
    (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 1
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Alexey Melnikov. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
  NONE

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items   
  o draft-spinosa-urn-lex-13  - IETF stream
    A Uniform Resource Name (URN) Namespace for Sources of Law (LEX)
    (Informational) - 1 of 2
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alissa Cooper, Roman Danyliw, Benjamin Kaduk, Alexey 
Melnikov, and Adam Roach.*

  o draft-kucherawy-rfc8478bis-03  - IETF stream
    Zstandard Compression and the application/zstd Media Type
    (Informational) - 2 of 2
    Token: Barry Leiba

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Barry Leiba. The Secretariat will send an individual 
submission Document Action Announcement.

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  NONE

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  o Adaptive DNS Discovery (add) - 1 of 3
    Area: INT (Barry Leiba)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. 

  o Web Packaging (wpack) - 2 of 3
    Area: ART (Alexey Melnikov)

The charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve 
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.* 

  o Drone Remote ID Protocol (drip) - 3 of 3
    Area: INT (Eric Vyncke)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending edits to 
be provided by Eric Vyncke. The Secretariat will send a WG Action 
announcement. 

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  o QUIC (quic) - 1 of 1
    Area: TSV (Magnus Westerlund)

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement. 

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 Agenda Conflict Resolution for IETF 107 (Liz Flynn)

The management issue was discussed.

6.2 [IANA #1161777] Management Item: Protocol Number for Transparent 
    Inter Process Communication (TIPC) (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The Secretariat will place this on 
the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (March 5, 2020). 

6.3 [IANA #1163119] Management Item: CoAP Content-Format for 
    application/td+json (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved adding the 
following entry to the "IESG Approval" range of the CoAP Content-Formats 
registry (https://www.iana.org/assignments/core-parameters), pending the 
approval of the Media Type by the Media Type reviewers:

Media Type: application/td+json
Encoding: -
ID: TBD (256-999 preferred, 432 suggested)
Reference: "Web of Things (WoT) Thing Description", May 2019
<https://www.w3.org/TR/wot-thing-description/>

6.4 [IANA #1163482] Designated experts for RFC-ietf-cellar-ebml (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. An action item to find designated 
experts for RFC-ietf-cellar-ebml was assigned to Alexey Melnikov prior 
to the start of the teleconference.

6.5 [IANA #1163481] Designated experts for IPv6 Low Power Personal Area 
    Network Parameters (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. An action item to find designated 
experts for IPv6 Low Power Personal Area Network Parameters was assigned 
to Suresh Krishnan prior to the start of the teleconference.

6.6 Executive Session: IESG appointment to the IETF Trust (Suresh 
    Krishnan)

The management issue was deferred to email.

6.7 Reassignment of [some] System Ports to the IESG (draft-kuehlewind-
    system-ports-05) (Alexey Melnikov)

The management issue was discussed.

6.8 [IANA #1163554] Management Item: Acceptance of media type 
    registration from standards organization Audio Engineering Society, 
     Inc. (AES) (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG asks IANA to process this 
media-type request, and to add this organization to the 'Standards-
related organizations that have registered Media Types in the Standards Tree.' 

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

8. Tools Team Report -- 11 February 2020

1. Datatracker Projects
  - The plan has seen a few significant updates in the last week:
    -- https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/browser/trunk/PLAN
    -- Increased the priority of capturing a record of all email
       sent from the Datatracker.
    -- Raised the priority for the transition to Django 2.0.
  - A contract for Meeting Application Improvements was awarded to
    IOLA.  The work related to the database models is complete and
    deployed; the works related to the user interface is underway,
    and it is expected to complete in the next few weeks.
  - A contract for the first part of the automated meeting schedule
    generation was awarded to DashCare, and work is underway.  This
    is the first part of a bigger project; this part will provide
    better models for conflicts that have previously been captured
    as lore or text comments.  This part of the project is expected to
    complete in the by the end of February 2020.
  - Contracts for Tools Maintenance and Minor Tools Enhancements were
    awarded to Elf Tools and Painless Security, respectively.  In both
    cases, work is underway.  Painless Security was give three initial
    tasks to familiarize them with the Datatracker code, and two have
    been completed. Painless Security will also be learning the code
    for other tools; they have begun a minor enhancement to the IETF
    website.

2. Community & Other Projects
  - Matomo has been integrated with the IETF Wagtail website, and it
    is collecting the desired analytics.

3. RFC Services Projects
  - One document is blocked on a bug in xml2rfc; the fix will be posted
    this week.
  - The Tools Team developed a Statement of Work for a security review
    of the tools used by the RFC Production Center, and the IETF LLC
    released the RFP in the first week of February 2020.  The Tools
    Team will assist with the evaluation of bids, which a due on
    4 March 2020.

4. Server Infrastructure
  - We plan to transition all IETF services to a new virtual server
    group on 24 February 2020, which was previously attempted on
    27 January 2020.  The reasons for the failed transition have been
    found in the Datatracker scripts, and they have been resolved.
    This transition will move us to the latest releases for the
    operating system, Python, and other software.
  - A minor release is planned this week to the IETF Wagtail website
    to fix an issue with previewing pages by authors.
  - A major revision to the IETF Wagtail website is planned for later
    this month to remove a previous broken attempt at Datatracker
    integration and simplify many of the models in preparation for
    transition to the current version of Wagtail.
  - The custom DMARC-handling software was deployed for all mail lists
    in June 2018.  This custom software seems to be a better fit for
    the IETF than OpenARC.  However, the custom software does not
    support the Internet-Draft and leadership email aliases.  Once the
    virtual server upgrade is complete, we will investigate how to
    handle these email aliases.

5. YANG Catalog
  - Current focus is to better support the posting of YANG modules by
    other SDOs.
  - A sandbox of the YANGcatalog.org is running in a container.  We
    expect deployment of the containerized version later this year.
  - A contract for YANG Catalog  Maintenance by PANTHEON.tech is
    underway.


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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.