Minutes interim-2020-iesg-08 2020-03-19 14:00
minutes-interim-2020-iesg-08-202003191400-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the March 19, 2020 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES 
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Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / IETF Chair, General Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Martin Duke / F5 Networks Inc / incoming Transport Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Wes Hardaker (USC/ISI) / IAB Liaison
Ted Hardie (Google) / IAB Chair
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area
Erik Kline / Loon LLC / incoming Internet Area
Suresh Krishnan (Kaloom) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy / Facebook / incoming Applications and Real-Time Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / Transport Area
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Barry Leiba (Futurewei Technologies) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Alexey Melnikov / Applications and Real-Time Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Adam Roach (Mozilla) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Alice Russo (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area
Robert Wilton / Cisco Systems / incoming Operations and Management Area

REGRETS 
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Ignas Bagdonas (Equinix) /  Operations and Management Area
Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director


OBSERVERS
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Karen O'Donoghue
Greg Wood

MINUTES 
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1. Administrivia 
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the March 5, 2020 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the March 5, 2020 Teleconference were approved. 
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The minutes of the March 12, 2020 Teleconference remain under review.

The narrative minutes of the March 12, 2020 Teleconference remain under 
review.

1.2 Documents Approved since the March 12, 2020 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-6lo-ap-nd-20  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags-10  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-ippm-metric-registry-24  (Best Current Practice)
  o draft-ietf-ippm-initial-registry-16  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-6tisch-enrollment-enhanced-beacon-14  (Proposed Standard)


1.2.2 Document Actions
  o draft-ietf-dmm-distributed-mobility-anchoring-15  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-rmcat-wireless-tests-11  (Informational)

    
1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:

  o Eric Vyncke to find designated experts for RFC 7401 [IANA #1164641].
  o Barry Leiba to draft a proposal for NomCom Eligibility in light of 
    IETF 107 becoming a virtual meeting.

REASSIGNED:

  o Eric Vyncke (with Suresh Krishnan) to write a draft of an IoT 
    Systems charter.

NEW:

  o Murray Kucherawy to send out a Last Call on marking TCP and UDP 
    Ports 109 as "Reserved" in the "Service Name and Transport Protocol 
    Port Number" Registry.

IN PROGRESS:

  o Roman Danyliw to draft text to be posted on ietf.org about reporting 
    protocol vulnerabilities via an email alias and possible procedures 
    on how to assign triage resources. 
  o Martin Vigoureux with Wes, and Alvaro to work on some
    mechanism to obtain wider or private feedback from people who are 
    disenfranchised; anonymous flagging of offensive emails to inform 
    leadership; more opportunities for private feedback.
  o Alvaro Retana and Barry Leiba, with Warren Kumari, Alexey Melnikov, 
    Martin Vigoureux, and Roman Danyliw to work on more transparency in 
    the Datatracker about how long each phase of doc process takes / New 
    datatracker flag to indicate who has the ball: area directors, 
    authors, or chairs.
  o Alexey Melnikov and Warren Kumari to add keyword tags to WG charters 
    to identify specs that pertain to some general concept.
  o Alvaro Retana to work on a framework for analyzing new proposals. 
  o Warren Kumari to work on acknowledging shepherds, directorate 
    reviewers in a more standardized/formal way.
  o Alexey Melnikov to organize IoT overview discussion with interested 
    ADs.
  o Eric Vyncke to write up draft text on Special Interest 
    Groups and send to the IESG for comment.
  o Magnus Westerlund to draft an IESG Statement regarding the IETF 
    as the default change controller for IANA Registration requests.
  o Suresh Krishnan to draft a "best errata practices" document and 
    post it on the IESG Wiki.
  o Roman Danyliw to find designated experts for RFC 7636 [IANA 
    #1160634].
  o Suresh Krishnan to find designated experts for the IPv6 Low Power 
    Personal Area Network Parameters registries [IANA #1163481].
  o Ben Kaduk, Alvaro Retana, and Suresh Krishnan to divide community
    suggestions in the "AD Workload" thread into workload-specific 
    topics and workflow-related topics.
  o Alvaro Retana, Benjamin Kaduk, and Murray Kucherawy to look at 
    updating the I-D Checklist.
  o Benjamin Kaduk to find designated experts for RFC 8747 [IANA 
    #1164865].

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
  o draft-ietf-6man-icmp-limits-08  - IETF stream
    ICMPv6 errors for discarding packets due to processing limits
    (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 5
    Token: Suresh Krishnan

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

  o draft-ietf-lpwan-coap-static-context-hc-13  - IETF stream
    LPWAN Static Context Header Compression (SCHC) for CoAP (Proposed
    Standard) - 2 of 5
    Token: Suresh Krishnan

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw, Benjamin Kaduk, Alexey Melnikov, and 
Magnus Westerlund.*

  o draft-ietf-ntp-using-nts-for-ntp-24  - IETF stream
    Network Time Security for the Network Time Protocol (Proposed
    Standard) - 3 of 5
    Token: Suresh Krishnan

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk, Mirja Kuehlewind and Magnus 
Westerlund.*

  o draft-ietf-6tisch-msf-12  - IETF stream
    6TiSCH Minimal Scheduling Function (MSF) (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 
    5
    Token: Suresh Krishnan

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw and Benjamin Kaduk.*

  o draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc2845bis-07  - IETF stream
    Secret Key Transaction Authentication for DNS (TSIG) (Internet
    Standard) - 5 of 5
    Token: Warren Kumari

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Warren Kumari confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

2.1.2 Returning items    
  o draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-yang-08  - IETF stream
    YANG Data Model for MPLS LDP (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 1
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk and Eric VYncke.*

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
  NONE

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  NONE

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1161777] Management Item: Protocol Number for Transparent 
    Inter Process Communication (TIPC) (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. 

6.2 Deallocation of TCP/UDP ports 109 that was assigned to POP3 (RFC 
    937) (Alexey Melnikov)

The management issue was discussed. 

Action item: Murray Kucherawy to send out a Last Call on marking TCP and 
UDP Ports 109 as "Reserved" in the "Service Name and Transport Protocol 
Port Number" Registry.

6.3 [IANA #1164641] Designated experts for RFC 7401 (HIPv2) (Eric 
    Vyncke)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Robert Moskowitz 
<rgm@htt-consult.com> and Jeff Ahrenholz <j.ahrenholz@tempered.io> as 
the designated experts for the HIP Parameter Types and Notify Message 
Types registries created by RFC 7401.

6.4 [IANA #1163248] renewing early allocations for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-
    open-policy (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early 
allocations for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-open-policy.


7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.