Minutes interim-2020-iesg-09 2020-04-09 14:00
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Meeting Minutes | Internet Engineering Steering Group (iesg) IETF | |
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Date and time | 2020-04-09 14:00 | |
Title | Minutes interim-2020-iesg-09 2020-04-09 14:00 | |
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minutes-interim-2020-iesg-09-202004091400-00
INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the April 9, 2020 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES --------------------------------- Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / IETF Chair, General Area Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area Martin Duke / F5 Networks Inc / Transport Area Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe Wes Hardaker (USC/ISI) / IAB Liaison Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area Erik Kline / Loon LLC / Internet Area Murray Kucherawy / Facebook / Applications and Real-Time Area Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area Barry Leiba (Futurewei Technologies) / Applications and Real-Time Area Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area Alice Russo (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area Robert Wilton / Cisco Systems / Operations and Management Area REGRETS --------------------------------- Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director OBSERVERS --------------------------------- Len Hause Greg Wood MINUTES --------------------------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the Minutes The minutes of the March 12, 2020 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. The narrative minutes of the March 12, 2020 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. The minutes of the March 19, 2020 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. The narrative minutes of the March 19, 2020 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Documents Approved since the March 19, 2020 IESG Teleconference 1.2.1 Protocol Actions o draft-ietf-ntp-using-nts-for-ntp-28 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-uta-tls-for-email-05 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-6lo-fragment-recovery-21 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-6lo-minimal-fragment-15 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-6lo-backbone-router-20 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-6man-icmp-limits-08 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-yang-09 (Proposed Standard) o draft-cheshire-sudn-ipv4only-dot-arpa-17 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-core-senml-more-units-06 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-alto-cost-calendar-21 (Proposed Standard) 1.2.2 Document Actions o draft-ietf-rmcat-eval-criteria-14 (Informational) o draft-ietf-tcpm-converters-19 (Experimental) o draft-ietf-ippm-multipoint-alt-mark-09 (Experimental) o draft-ietf-dmm-pmipv6-dlif-06 (Experimental) o draft-ietf-git-using-github-06 (Informational) o draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-18 (Informational) o draft-gutmann-scep-16 (Informational) 1.3 Review of Action Items DONE: o Alexey Melnikov to organize IoT overview discussion with interested ADs. o Ben Kaduk, Alvaro Retana, and Suresh Krishnan to divide community suggestions in the "AD Workload" thread into workload-specific topics and workflow-related topics. o Benjamin Kaduk to find designated experts for RFC 8747 [IANA #1164865]. o Warren Kumari to draft and send email to the WG Chairs list to begin assembling a list of high-level keywords related to WG Charters. o Warren Kumari to email the Tools Team to inquire about the possibilities of tagging WG Charters and the level of effort required. DELETED: o Suresh Krishnan to draft a "best errata practices" document and post it on the IESG Wiki. NEW: o Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for RFC 7489. UPDATED/REASSIGNED: o Warren Kumari and Alexey Melnikov to add keyword tags to WG charters to identify specs that pertain to some general concept. o Erik Kline to find designated experts for the IPv6 Low Power Personal Area Network Parameters registries [IANA #1163481]. IN PROGRESS: o Roman Danyliw to draft text to be posted on ietf.org about reporting protocol vulnerabilities via an email alias and possible procedures on how to assign triage resources. o Martin Vigoureux with Wes, and Alvaro to work on some mechanism to obtain wider or private feedback from people who are disenfranchised; anonymous flagging of offensive emails to inform leadership; more opportunities for private feedback. o Alvaro Retana and Barry Leiba, with Warren Kumari, Alexey Melnikov, Martin Vigoureux, and Roman Danyliw to work on more transparency in the Datatracker about how long each phase of doc process takes / New datatracker flag to indicate who has the ball: area directors, authors, or chairs. o Alvaro Retana to work on a framework for analyzing new proposals. o Warren Kumari to work on acknowledging shepherds, directorate reviewers in a more standardized/formal way. o Eric Vyncke to write up draft text on Special Interest Groups and send to the IESG for comment. o Magnus Westerlund to draft an IESG Statement regarding the IETF as the default change controller for IANA Registration requests. o Roman Danyliw to find designated experts for RFC 7636 [IANA #1160634]. o Alvaro Retana, Benjamin Kaduk, and Murray Kucherawy to look at updating the I-D Checklist. o Eric Vyncke (with Suresh Krishnan) to write a draft of an IoT Systems charter. o Murray Kucherawy to send out a Last Call on marking TCP and UDP Ports 109 as "Reserved" in the "Service Name and Transport Protocol Port Number" Registry. 2. Protocol actions 2.1 WG submissions 2.1.1 New items o draft-ietf-stir-passport-divert-08 - IETF stream PASSporT Extension for Diverted Calls (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 6 Token: Murray Kucherawy The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw and Benjamin Kaduk.* o draft-ietf-dnsop-no-response-issue-20 - IETF stream A Common Operational Problem in DNS Servers - Failure To Communicate (Best Current Practice) - 2 of 6 Token: Warren Kumari The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-mmusic-t140-usage-data-channel-12 - IETF stream T.140 Real-time Text Conversation over WebRTC Data Channels (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 6 Token: Murray Kucherawy The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Martin Duke.* o draft-ietf-regext-data-escrow-07 - IETF stream Registry Data Escrow Specification (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 6 Token: Barry Leiba The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Alissa Cooper, Roman Danyliw, Benjamin Kaduk, Murray Kucherawy, Magnus Westerlund, and Robert Wilton.* o draft-ietf-tsvwg-datagram-plpmtud-19 - IETF stream Packetization Layer Path MTU Discovery for Datagram Transports (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 6 Token: Magnus Westerlund The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Magnus Westerlund. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-sidrops-ov-egress-04 - IETF stream BGP RPKI-Based Origin Validation on Export (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 6 Token: Warren Kumari The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group Protocol Action Announcement. 2.1.2 Returning items NONE 2.2 Individual submissions 2.2.1 New items NONE 2.2.2 Returning items NONE 2.3 Status changes 2.3.1 New items NONE 2.3.2 Returning items NONE 3. Document actions 3.1 WG submissions 3.1.1 New items o draft-ietf-taps-transport-security-11 - IETF stream A Survey of the Interaction Between Security Protocols and Transport Services (Informational) - 1 of 4 Token: Magnus Westerlund The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Eric Vyncke.* o draft-ietf-emu-rfc5448bis-07 - IETF stream Improved Extensible Authentication Protocol Method for 3GPP Mobile Network Authentication and Key Agreement (EAP-AKA') (Informational) - 2 of 4 Token: Roman Danyliw The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Roman Danyliw. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-dnsop-multi-provider-dnssec-04 - IETF stream Multi Signer DNSSEC models (Informational) - 3 of 4 Token: Warren Kumari The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Warren Kumari. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-sidrops-rp-06 - IETF stream Requirements for Resource Public Key Infrastructure (RPKI) Relying Parties (Informational) - 4 of 4 Token: Warren Kumari The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement. 3.1.2 Returning items NONE 3.2 Individual submissions via AD 3.2.1 New items o draft-nottingham-how-did-that-get-into-the-repo-01 - IETF stream The secret-token URI Scheme (Informational) - 1 of 1 Token: Murray Kucherawy The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Document Action Announcement once Murray Kucherawy confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent. 3.2.2 Returning items NONE 3.3 Status changes 3.3.1 New items NONE 3.3.2 Returning items NONE 3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents 3.4.1 New items NONE 3.4.2 Returning items o conflict-review-msahli-ise-ieee1609-00 IETF conflict review for draft-msahli-ise-ieee1609 draft-msahli-ise-ieee1609-06 TLS Authentication using ITS certificate (ISE: Experimental) - 1 of 1 Token: Benjamin Kaduk The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document. The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response prepared by Benjamin Kaduk. 4. Working Group actions 4.1 WG creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review NONE 4.1.2 Proposed for approval NONE 4.2 WG rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review o Deterministic Networking (detnet) - 1 of 1 Area: RTG (Deborah Brungard) The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group pending edits to the text of the charter to be provided by Deborah Brungard. The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement. 4.2.2 Proposed for approval o Transport Layer Security (tls) - 1 of 1 Area: SEC (Benjamin Kaduk) The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group pending edits to the text of the charter to be provided by Benjamin Kaduk. The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement. 5. IAB news we can use 6. Management issues 6.1 [IANA #1165827] Management Item: Acceptance of media type registration from standards organization FIX Trading Community (IANA) The management issue was discussed. The IESG asks IANA to process this media-type request, and to add this organization to the 'Standards- related organizations that have registered Media Types in the Standards Tree.' 6.2 Response to [IANA #1161777] Protocol Number for Transparent Inter Process Communication (TIPC) (Response to IANA) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved the following response to IANA: While collecting community feedback on this protocol allocation request, one of the most important things that came up was regarding potential ongoing improvements in the Linux kernel for enabling better UDP performance. Given this new information, it appears that allocating a protocol number for TIPC at this point is premature. The submitter has been informed and they agree with this assessment. The IESG requests IANA to close this request without allocating a protocol number. 6.3 [IANA #1167290] Designated experts for RFC 7489 (IANA) The management issue was discussed. Action item: Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for RFC 7489. 6.4 [IANA #1167382] Management Item: Acceptance of media type registration from standards organization Linux Foundation (IANA) The management issue was discussed. The IESG asks IANA to process this media-type request, and to add this organization to the 'Standards- related organizations that have registered Media Types in the Standards Tree.' 6.5 Retreat Cancellation (Alissa Cooper) The management issue was discussed. 6.6 Designated experts for "CWT Confirmation Methods" (Ben Kaduk) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Ludwig Seitz <ludwig.seitz@ri.se> and Mike Jones <michael.jones@microsoft.com> as designated experts for the RFC 8747 registry ("CWT Confirmation Methods"). 7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.) 8. Tools Team Report -- 19 March 2020 1. Datatracker Projects - See https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/browser/trunk/PLAN -- Raised the priority for the transition to Django 2.0. - A contract for Meeting Application Improvements was awarded to IOLA. The work related to the user interface is underway, and IOLA is making good progress. IOLA is expected to complete in the next few weeks. - A contract for the first part of the automated meeting schedule generation was awarded to DashCare, and the work is essentially finished. The tools team is starting work on the RFP for the second part of the project, which is the schedule building. - Contracts for Tools Maintenance and Minor Tools Enhancements were awarded to Elf Tools and Painless Security, respectively. In both cases work is going well. - Investigating how to measure datatracker performance. 2. Community & Other Projects - The search at www.ietf.org now provide additional pointers to the Datatracker search and the Mail Archive search. - As part of the recent server upgrade, Mail Archive was moved to Python3 and all third-party resource references were removed. - Investigating the use of CodiMD instead of Etherpad. Also looking at the process that should be used in making such decisions. 3. RFC Services Projects - One document is blocked on a bug in xml2rfc; the priority of the issue was increased, and a solution is expected quickly. - The Tools Team developed a Statement of Work for a security review of the tools used by the RFC Production Center. An award was made to ZX Security. A kick-off teleconference will take place soon. 4. Server Infrastructure - All IETF services were transitioned to a new virtual server group on 22 February 2020. The few services that are still using Python2 are now running in containers. Apache is using Python3. - IETF Wagtail website is currently running in a container; there are discussions about putting it on a dedicated virtual machine. - A major revision to the IETF Wagtail website simplifies many of the models; this is part of the transition to the current version of Wagtail. - The custom DMARC-handling software was deployed for all mail lists in June 2018. A design team was formed to investigate how to handle DMARC and the datatracker-managed email aliases. - Investigating the use of nginx instead of mod_wsgi. 5. YANG Catalog - A development copy of YANGcatalog.org is running in a container. We expect deployment of the containerized version later this year. - PANTHEON.tech handles YANG Catalog maintenance under contract. ----------------------------------------------- * Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.