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Minutes interim-2020-iesg-11 2020-05-07 14:00

Meeting Minutes Internet Engineering Steering Group (iesg) IETF
Date and time 2020-05-07 14:00
Title Minutes interim-2020-iesg-11 2020-05-07 14:00
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Minutes of the May 7, 2020 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / IETF Chair, General Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Martin Duke / F5 Networks Inc / Transport Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Wes Hardaker (USC/ISI) / IAB Liaison
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area
Erik Kline / Loon LLC / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy / Facebook / Applications and Real-Time Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Barry Leiba (Futurewei Technologies) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area
Robert Wilton / Cisco Systems / Operations and Management Area

Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director

Brenda Lyons
Greg Wood

1. Administrivia 
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the April 24, 2020 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the April 24, 2020 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the April 24, 2020 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-token-authnz-17  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-dnsop-extended-error-16  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-nvo3-geneve-16  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
  o draft-ietf-taps-transport-security-12  (Informational)
1.3 Review of Action Items

  o Alissa Cooper to edit the draft text for the "manycouches BoF" 
    and send to the manycouches email list for feedback.


  o Roman Danyliw to draft text to be posted on about reporting 
    protocol vulnerabilities via an email alias and possible procedures 
    on how to assign triage resources. 
  o Martin Vigoureux with Wes, and Alvaro to work on some
    mechanism to obtain wider or private feedback from people who are 
    disenfranchised; anonymous flagging of offensive emails to inform 
    leadership; more opportunities for private feedback.
  o Alvaro Retana and Barry Leiba, with Warren Kumari, Alexey Melnikov, 
    Martin Vigoureux, and Roman Danyliw to work on more transparency in 
    the Datatracker about how long each phase of doc process takes / New 
    datatracker flag to indicate who has the ball: area directors, 
    authors, or chairs.
  o Warren Kumari and Alexey Melnikov to add keyword tags to WG charters 
    to identify specs that pertain to some general concept.
  o Alvaro Retana to work on a framework for analyzing new proposals. 
  o Warren Kumari to work on acknowledging shepherds, directorate 
    reviewers in a more standardized/formal way.
  o Eric Vyncke to write up draft text on Special Interest 
    Groups and send to the IESG for comment.
  o Alvaro Retana, Benjamin Kaduk, and Murray Kucherawy to look at 
    updating the I-D Checklist.
  o Eric Vyncke (with Suresh Krishnan) to write a draft of an IoT 
    Systems charter.
  o Erik Kline to find designated experts for the IPv6 Low Power 
    Personal Area Network Parameters registries [IANA #1163481].
  o Warren Kumari to find designated experts for RFC-ietf-anima-
    bootstrapping-keyinfra [IANA #1169514].
  o All ADs (and Colin for the IRTF) to go through the keywords 
    Google Sheet and curate the list of keywords per working group 
    in their area.


2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
  o draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-msd-17  - IETF stream
    Signaling MSD (Maximum SID Depth) using Border Gateway Protocol -
    Link State (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 2
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Alvaro Retana confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-idr-capabilities-registry-change-08  - IETF stream
    Revision to Capability Codes Registration Procedures (Proposed
    Standard) - 2 of 2
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk and Magnus Westerlund.*

2.1.2 Returning items

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  o draft-iesg-nomcom-eligibility-2020-03  - IETF stream
    Eligibility for the 2020-2021 Nominating Committee (Best Current
    Practice) - 1 of 1
    Token: Murray Kucherawy

Barry Leiba formally recused himself from the discussion. The document 
was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an individual 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

2.2.2 Returning items

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items

2.3.2 Returning items

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
  o draft-ietf-sfc-oam-framework-13  - IETF stream
    Service Function Chaining (SFC) Operations, Administration and
    Maintenance (OAM) Framework (Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Martin Vigoureux

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alissa Cooper and Murray Kucherawy.*

3.1.2 Returning items

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items

3.2.2 Returning items

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items

3.3.2 Returning items

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

3.4.2 Returning items

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

4.1.2 Proposed for approval

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review

4.2.2 Proposed for approval

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1167927] Renewing early allocations for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-
    algo (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early 
allocations for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo.

6.2 [IANA #1169514] Designated experts for RFC-ietf-anima-bootstrapping-
    keyinfra-41 (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. An action item to find designated 
experts for RFC-ietf-anima-bootstrapping-keyinfra was assigned to Warren 
Kumari prior to the start of the teleconference.

6.3 Executive Session: Appeal to the IESG re WGLC of draft-ietf-spring-

The management issue was discussed in an executive session.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

* Please see the Datatracker ( 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.