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Date and time 2020-06-11 14:00
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the June 11, 2020 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES 
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Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / IETF Chair, General Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Martin Duke / F5 Networks Inc / Transport Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Wes Hardaker (USC/ISI) / IAB Liaison
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area
Erik Kline / Loon LLC / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy / Facebook / Applications and Real-Time Area
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Barry Leiba (Futurewei Technologies) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area
Robert Wilton / Cisco Systems / Operations and Management Area

REGRETS 
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Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair

OBSERVERS
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Matthew Miller
Mike Jones

MINUTES 
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1. Administrivia 
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the May 21, 2020 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the May 21, 2020 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The minutes of the IETF 107 BOF Coordination Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the May 21, 2020 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-ospf-mpls-elc-15  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-isis-mpls-elc-13  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-idr-rfc5575bis-25  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
  o draft-hodges-webauthn-registries-10  (Informational)
    
1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  o Warren Kumari and Alexey Melnikov to add keyword tags to WG charters 
    to identify specs that pertain to some general concept.
  o Erik Kline to find designated experts for the IPv6 Low Power 
    Personal Area Network Parameters registries [IANA #1163481].
  o All ADs (and Colin for the IRTF) to go through the keywords 
    Google Sheet and curate the list of keywords per working group 
    in their area.

DROPPED:
  o Alvaro Retana to work on a framework for analyzing new proposals.

UPDATED:
  o Alvaro Retana, Rob Wilton, Alissa Cooper, and Martin Vigoureux to 
    draft text on the framework for a long-term future plan for the 
    IETF. 

IN PROGRESS:
  o Roman Danyliw to draft text to be posted on ietf.org about reporting 
    protocol vulnerabilities via an email alias and possible procedures 
    on how to assign triage resources. 
  o Martin Vigoureux with Wes, and Alvaro to work on some
    mechanism to obtain wider or private feedback from people who are 
    disenfranchised; anonymous flagging of offensive emails to inform 
    leadership; more opportunities for private feedback.
  o Alvaro Retana and Barry Leiba, with Warren Kumari, Alexey Melnikov, 
    Martin Vigoureux, and Roman Danyliw to work on more transparency in 
    the Datatracker about how long each phase of doc process takes / New 
    datatracker flag to indicate who has the ball: area directors, 
    authors, or chairs.
  o Warren Kumari to work on acknowledging shepherds, directorate 
    reviewers in a more standardized/formal way.
  o Eric Vyncke to write up draft text on Special Interest 
    Groups and send to the IESG for comment.
  o Alvaro Retana, Benjamin Kaduk, and Murray Kucherawy to look at 
    updating the I-D Checklist.
  o Eric Vyncke (with Suresh Krishnan) to write a draft of an IoT 
    Systems charter.
  o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft text on guidance 
    regarding the number of document authors on documents. 
  o Roman Danyliw to draft text for a request to the Tools Team to move 
    BoF requests from the BoF Wiki to the Datatracker. 
  o Barry Leiba to draft a proposal regarding moving the deadline for 
    BoF Proposals for IETF 109 earlier (more than two weeks before the 
    BoF Coordination Call).
  o Alvaro Retana, Warren Kumari, and Barry Leiba to draft clarifying 
    text on Errata Best Practices.

NEW:
  NONE

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
  o draft-ietf-isis-te-app-14  - IETF stream
    IS-IS TE Attributes per application (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 9
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Deborah Brungard, Benjamin Kaduk, and Murray Kucherawy.*

  o draft-ietf-ospf-te-link-attr-reuse-14  - IETF stream
    OSPF Link Traffic Engineering Attribute Reuse (Proposed Standard) - 
    2 of 9
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Deborah Brungard and Robert Wilton.*

  o draft-ietf-emu-eap-session-id-04  - IETF stream
    EAP Session-Id Derivation for EAP-SIM, EAP-AKA, and PEAP (Proposed
    Standard) - 3 of 9
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

  o draft-ietf-cose-webauthn-algorithms-07  - IETF stream
    COSE and JOSE Registrations for WebAuthn Algorithms (Proposed
    Standard) - 4 of 9
    Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

  o draft-ietf-cose-rfc8152bis-struct-10  - IETF stream
    CBOR Object Signing and Encryption (COSE): Structures and Process
    (Internet Standard) - 5 of 9
    Token: Barry Leiba

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw and Benjamin Kaduk.*

  o draft-ietf-dhc-mac-assign-07  - IETF stream
    Link-Layer Addresses Assignment Mechanism for DHCPv6 (Proposed
    Standard) - 6 of 9
    Token: Éric Vyncke

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk and Robert Wilton.*

  o draft-ietf-dhc-slap-quadrant-09  - IETF stream
    SLAP quadrant selection options for DHCPv6 (Proposed Standard) - 7 
    of 9
    Token: Éric Vyncke
    IANA Review: IANA OK - Actions Needed
    Consensus: Yes

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Robert Wilton.*

  o draft-ietf-capport-rfc7710bis-07  - IETF stream
    Captive-Portal Identification in DHCP / RA (Proposed Standard) - 8 
    of 9
    Token: Barry Leiba

Erik Kline and Warren Kumari formally recused themselves from the 
discussion. The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order 
to resolve points raised by Benjamin Kaduk and Magnus Westerlund.*

  o draft-ietf-capport-api-07  - IETF stream
    Captive Portal API (Proposed Standard) - 9 of 9
    Token: Barry Leiba

Erik Kline formally recused himself from the discussion. The document 
remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised 
by Roman Daniliw and Magnus Westerlund.*

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
  o draft-ietf-cose-rfc8152bis-algs-09  - IETF stream
    CBOR Object Signing and Encryption (COSE): Initial Algorithms
    (Informational) - 1 of 3
    Token: Barry Leiba

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

  o draft-ietf-cose-hash-algs-04  - IETF stream
    CBOR Object Signing and Encryption (COSE): Hash Algorithms
    (Informational) - 2 of 3
    Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

  o draft-ietf-capport-architecture-08  - IETF stream
    CAPPORT Architecture (Informational) - 3 of 3
    Token: Barry Leiba

Erik Kline formally recused himself from the discussion. The document 
remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised 
by Martin Duke and Benjamin Kaduk.*

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  NONE

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  o Multiplexed Application Substrate over QUIC Encryption (masque) - 1 
    of 1
    Area: TSV (Martin Duke)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. 

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1170960] Management Item: Acceptance of media type 
    registration from standards organization ASTM International (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG asks IANA to process this 
media-type request, and to add this organization to the 'Standards-
related organizations that have registered Media Types in the Standards 
Tree.' 

6.2 [IANA #1170306] Renewing early allocations for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-
    optimized-ir (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early 
allocations for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-optimized-ir.

6.3 [IANA #1163481] Designated Experts for the IPv6 Low Power Personal 
    Area Network Parameters registries (Erik Kline)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved the following 
updates to the IPv6 Low Power Personal Area Network Parameters 
registries:

Dispatch Type Field
Primary experts: Carles Gomez <carlesgo@entel.upc.edu>, Shwetha Bhandari 
<shwethab@cisco.com>, 
Secondary expert: Pascal Thubert <pthubert@cisco.com> (secondary expert)

Short Address Fields
Expert: Carles Gomez <carlesgo@entel.upc.edu>

ESC Extension Types
Expert: Shwetha Bhandari <shwethab@cisco.com>

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.