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Date and time 2020-07-16 14:00
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minutes-interim-2020-iesg-17-202007161400-00
INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the July 16, 2020 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Martin Duke / F5 Networks Inc / Transport Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Wes Hardaker (USC/ISI) / IAB Liaison
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area
Murray Kucherawy / Facebook / Applications and Real-Time Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Barry Leiba (Futurewei Technologies) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Robert Wilton / Cisco Systems / Operations and Management Area

REGRETS
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Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / IETF Chair, General Area
Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Erik Kline / Loon LLC / Internet Area
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area

OBSERVERS
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Greg Wood

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

Approval of the minutes of the July 9, 2020 teleconference was deferred 
until the next IESG teleconference (August 13, 2020).

1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-detnet-ip-07  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-httpbis-header-structure-19  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
  NONE
    
1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  o Roman Danyliw to draft text to be posted on ietf.org about reporting
    protocol vulnerabilities via an email alias and possible procedures
    on how to assign triage resources

IN PROGRESS:
  o Martin Vigoureux with Wes, and Alvaro to work on some
    mechanism to obtain wider or private feedback from people who are
    disenfranchised; anonymous flagging of offensive emails to inform
    leadership; more opportunities for private feedback.
  o Alvaro Retana and Barry Leiba, with Warren Kumari, Alexey Melnikov,
    Martin Vigoureux, and Roman Danyliw to work on more transparency in
    the Datatracker about how long each phase of doc process takes / New
    datatracker flag to indicate who has the ball: area directors,
    authors, or chairs.
  o Warren Kumari to work on acknowledging shepherds, directorate
    reviewers in a more standardized/formal way.
  o Eric Vyncke to write up draft text on Special Interest
    Groups and send to the IESG for comment.
  o Alvaro Retana, Benjamin Kaduk, and Murray Kucherawy to look at
    updating the I-D Checklist.
  o Eric Vyncke (with Suresh Krishnan) to write a draft of an IoT
    Systems charter.
  o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft text on guidance
    regarding the number of document authors on documents.
  o Alvaro Retana, Rob Wilton, Alissa Cooper, and Martin Vigoureux to
    draft text on the framework for a long-term future plan for the
    IETF.
  o Roman Danyliw to draft text for a request to the Tools Team to move
    BoF requests from the BoF Wiki to the Datatracker.
  o Alvaro Retana, Warren Kumari, and Barry Leiba to draft clarifying
    text on Errata Best Practices.
  o Magnus Westerlund to find designated experts for the RDMA-CM Private
    Data Identifiers registry (RFC8797) [IANA #1173341].
  o Ben Kaduk to find designated experts for RFC 8784 [IANA #1173591].

NEW:
  NONE

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
  o draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-09  - IETF stream
    Integrated Routing and Bridging in EVPN (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 3
    Token: Martin Vigoureux

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk, Erik Kline, and Alvaro Retana.*

  o draft-ietf-lsr-isis-invalid-tlv-02  - IETF stream
    Invalid TLV Handling in IS-IS (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 3
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Alvaro Retana confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-ippm-stamp-option-tlv-07  - IETF stream
    Simple Two-way Active Measurement Protocol Optional Extensions
    (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 3
    Token: Martin Duke

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw, Benjamin Kaduk, Erik Kline, and Murray 
Kucherawy.*

2.1.2 Returning items    
  o draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane-27  - IETF stream
    An Autonomic Control Plane (ACP) (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 3
    Token: Eric Vyncke

The document was deferred to the next teleconference (August 13, 2020) 
by Barry Leiba.

  o draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-31  - IETF stream
    Native NAT Traversal Mode for the Host Identity Protocol (Proposed
    Standard) - 2 of 3
    Token: Eric Vyncke

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Martin Duke and Magnus Westerlund.*

  o draft-ietf-lpwan-coap-static-context-hc-15  - IETF stream
    LPWAN Static Context Header Compression (SCHC) for CoAP (Proposed
    Standard) - 3 of 3
    Token: Eric Vyncke

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
  NONE

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  NONE

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  o Network File System Version 4 (nfsv4) - 1 of 1
    Area: TSV (Magnus Westerlund)

The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter.
The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a 
separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG 
on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (August 13, 2020).

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1172452] Application for a Port Number and/or Service Name 
    "3gpp-w1ap" (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved registering the 
Port Number and/or Service Name "3gpp-w1ap."

6.2 [IANA #1174385] Acceptance of media type registration from standards 
    organization ECMA (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG asks IANA to process this 
media-type request, and to add this organization to the 'Standards-
related organizations that have registered Media Types in the Standards 
Tree.' 

6.3 Reporting Protocol Vulnerabilities (Roman Danyliw)

The management issue was discussed. 

6.4 Page Limit for Back-to-Back Telechats (Barry Leiba)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG agreed to reduce the page 
limit to 175 for the second telechat when two telechats are held in 
consecutive weeks.

6.5 draft-knodel-terminology (Martin Vigoureux)

The management issue was discussed. 

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.