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Date and time 2020-08-27 14:00
Title Minutes interim-2020-iesg-19 2020-08-27 14:00
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minutes-interim-2020-iesg-19-202008271400-00
INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the August 27, 2020 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / IETF Chair, General Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Martin Duke (F5 Networks Inc) / Transport Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area
Erik Kline (Loon LLC) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Facebook) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Barry Leiba (Futurewei Technologies) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area

REGRETS
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Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Wes Hardaker (USC/ISI) / IAB Liaison
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area

OBSERVERS
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Adrian Farrel
Karen O'Donoghue
Sean Turner
Greg Wood

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the August 13, 2020 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the August 13, 2020 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the August 13, 2020 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-lsp-scheduling-27  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-snooping-yang-18  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-ippm-route-10  (Proposed Standard)
    
1.2.2 Document Actions
  NONE

    
1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  o Alvaro Retana and Barry Leiba, with Warren Kumari, Alexey Melnikov, 
    Martin Vigoureux, and Roman Danyliw to work on more transparency in 
    the Datatracker about how long each phase of doc process takes / New 
    datatracker flag to indicate who has the ball: area directors, 
    authors, or chairs.

IN PROGRESS:
  o Martin Vigoureux with Wes, and Alvaro to work on some
    mechanism to obtain wider or private feedback from people who are 
    disenfranchised; anonymous flagging of offensive emails to inform 
    leadership; more opportunities for private feedback.
  o Warren Kumari to work on acknowledging shepherds, directorate 
    reviewers in a more standardized/formal way.
  o Eric Vyncke to write up draft text on Special Interest 
    Groups and send to the IESG for comment.
  o Alvaro Retana, Benjamin Kaduk, and Murray Kucherawy to look at 
    updating the I-D Checklist.
  o Eric Vyncke (with Suresh Krishnan) to write a draft of an IoT 
    Systems charter.
  o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft text on guidance 
    regarding the number of document authors on documents. 
  o Alvaro Retana, Rob Wilton, Alissa Cooper, and Martin Vigoureux to 
    draft text on the framework for a long-term future plan for the 
    IETF. 
  o Roman Danyliw to draft text for a request to the Tools Team to move 
    BoF requests from the BoF Wiki to the Datatracker. 
    - Added 2020-06-04 (5 telechats ago)
  o Alvaro Retana, Warren Kumari, and Barry Leiba to draft clarifying 
    text on Errata Best Practices.
  o Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for content SDP 
    Parameters, QoS Mechanism Tokens [IANA #1175036].
  o Eric Vyncke to follow up on the suggestion at IETF 108 to share a 
    list of grammar checking tools with the community.
  o Barry Leiba to discuss possible datatracker feature request 
    regarding flagging who is responsible for the next step for a 
    document; the document authors, the WG Chairs, the AD Discuss 
    Holder, or the Responsible AD, with Robert Sparks. The feature 
    request should include a "length of time in state" flag.

NEW:
  NONE

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
  o draft-ietf-regext-dnrd-objects-mapping-09  - IETF stream
    Domain Name Registration Data (DNRD) Objects Mapping (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Barry Leiba

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

  o draft-ietf-bess-rfc5549revision-04  - IETF stream
    Advertising IPv4 Network Layer Reachability Information with an
    IPv6 Next Hop (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Martin Vigoureux

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Murray Kucherawy.*

  o draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-10  - IETF stream
    PCEP Extension for Flow Specification (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk and Alvaro Retana.*

  o draft-ietf-lamps-cms-update-alg-id-protect-03  - IETF stream
    Update to the Cryptographic Message Syntax (CMS) for Algorithm
    Identifier Protection (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Roman Danyliw confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items   
  o draft-ietf-ntp-mode-6-cmds-09  - IETF stream
    Control Messages Protocol for Use with Network Time Protocol
    Version 4 (Informational)
    Token: Erik Kline

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk and Murray Kucherawy.*

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  o conflict-review-atkins-suit-cose-walnutdsa-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-atkins-suit-cose-walnutdsa
      draft-atkins-suit-cose-walnutdsa-05
      Use of the Walnut Digital Signature Algorithm with CBOR Object
    Signing and Encryption (COSE) (ISE: Informational)
    Token: Benjamin Kaduk

The conflict review remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw.*

  o conflict-review-turner-sodp-profile-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-turner-sodp-profile
      draft-turner-sodp-profile-07
      The SODP (Secure Object Delivery Protocol) Server Interfaces:
    NSA's Profile for Delivery of Certificates, CRLs, and Symmetric
    Keys to Clients (ISE: Informational)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response 
prepared by Roman Danyliw.

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1175759] renewing early allocations for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-
    igmp-mld-proxy (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early 
allocations for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy.

6.2 [IANA #1175809] Upcoming Parameter Expiration: Early IANA 
    Allocations for draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early 
allocations for draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)


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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.