Minutes interim-2020-iesg-20 2020-09-10 14:00
minutes-interim-2020-iesg-20-202009101400-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the September 10, 2020 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / IETF Chair, General Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Martin Duke (F5 Networks Inc) / Transport Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area
Erik Kline (Loon LLC) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Facebook) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Barry Leiba (Futurewei Technologies) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area

REGRETS
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Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Wes Hardaker (USC/ISI) / IAB Liaison
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area

OBSERVERS
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Mike Jones
Alexey Melnikov
Greg Wood

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the August 27, 2020 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the August 27, 2020 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the August 27, 2020 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-babel-hmac-12  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-dhc-mac-assign-09  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-bess-rfc5549revision-06  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-babel-rfc6126bis-20  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-babel-dtls-10  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-emu-eap-session-id-07  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-bess-nsh-bgp-control-plane-18  (Proposed Standard)
    
1.2.2 Document Actions
  NONE
    
1.3 Review of Action Items

REMOVED:
  o Eric Vyncke (with Suresh Krishnan) to write a draft of an IoT 
    Systems charter.

IN PROGRESS:
  o Martin Vigoureux with Wes, and Alvaro to work on some
    mechanism to obtain wider or private feedback from people who are 
    disenfranchised; anonymous flagging of offensive emails to inform 
    leadership; more opportunities for private feedback.
  o Warren Kumari to work on acknowledging shepherds, directorate 
    reviewers in a more standardized/formal way.
  o Eric Vyncke to write up draft text on Special Interest 
    Groups and send to the IESG for comment.
  o Alvaro Retana, Benjamin Kaduk, and Murray Kucherawy to look at 
    updating the I-D Checklist.
  o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft text on guidance 
    regarding the number of document authors on documents. 
  o Alvaro Retana, Rob Wilton, Alissa Cooper, and Martin Vigoureux to 
    draft text on the framework for a long-term future plan for the 
    IETF. 
  o Roman Danyliw to draft text for a request to the Tools Team to move 
    BoF requests from the BoF Wiki to the Datatracker. 
  o Alvaro Retana, Warren Kumari, and Barry Leiba to draft clarifying 
    text on Errata Best Practices.
  o Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for content SDP 
    Parameters, QoS Mechanism Tokens [IANA #1175036].
  o Eric Vyncke to follow up on the suggestion at IETF 108 to share a 
    list of grammar checking tools with the community.
  o Barry Leiba to discuss possible datatracker feature request 
    regarding flagging who is responsible for the next step for a 
    document; the document authors, the WG Chairs, the AD Discuss 
    Holder, or the Responsible AD, with Robert Sparks. The feature 
    request should include a "length of time in state" flag.

NEW:
  o Robert Wilton and Warren Kumari to draft a charter for a proposed 
    IOTOPS Working Group.

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
  o draft-ietf-detnet-mpls-12  - IETF stream
    DetNet Data Plane: MPLS (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw and Magnus Westerlund.*

  o draft-ietf-detnet-ip-over-mpls-08  - IETF stream
    DetNet Data Plane: IP over MPLS (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

  o draft-ietf-stir-cert-delegation-03  - IETF stream
    STIR Certificate Delegation (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

  o draft-ietf-roll-turnon-rfc8138-14  - IETF stream
    A RPL DODAG Configuration Option for the 6LoWPAN Routing Header
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Martin Duke and Benjamin Kaduk.*

  o draft-ietf-regext-rdap-partial-response-13  - IETF stream
    Registration Data Access Protocol (RDAP) Partial Response (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Barry Leiba

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

  o draft-ietf-lamps-ocsp-nonce-04  - IETF stream
    OCSP Nonce Extension (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Barry Leiba.*

  o draft-ietf-cbor-7049bis-14  - IETF stream
    Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR) (Internet Standard)
    Token: Barry Leiba

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

  o draft-ietf-mpls-base-yang-15  - IETF stream
    A YANG Data Model for MPLS Base (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw and Robert Wilton.*

  o draft-ietf-cbor-date-tag-06  - IETF stream
    Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR) Tags for Date (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Barry Leiba

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Barry Leiba. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
  NONE

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  NONE

3.4.2 Returning items
  o conflict-review-atkins-suit-cose-walnutdsa-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-atkins-suit-cose-walnutdsa
      draft-atkins-suit-cose-walnutdsa-05
      Use of the Walnut Digital Signature Algorithm with CBOR Object
    Signing and Encryption (COSE) (ISE: Informational)
    Token: Benjamin Kaduk

The conflict review remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw.*

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  o Building Blocks for HTTP APIs (httpapi)
    Area: ART (Barry Leiba)

The charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve 
points raised by Alissa Cooper and Martin Duke.* 

  o Secure Media Frames (sframe)
    Area: ART (Murray Kucherawy)

The charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve 
points raised by Eric Vyncke and Magnus Westerlund.* 

  o Revision of core Email specifications (emailcore)
    Area: ART (Barry Leiba)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message 
to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda 
for the next IESG Teleconference (September 24, 2020).

  o A Semantic Definition Format for Data and Interactions of Things 
    (asdf)
    Area: ART (Barry Leiba)

The charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve 
points raised by Robert Wilton.* 

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1177131]  Acceptance of media type registration from 
    standards organization IMS Global Learning Consortium Inc (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG asks IANA to process this 
media-type request, and to add this organization to the 'Standards-
related organizations that have registered Media Types in the Standards Tree.' 

6.2 Chartering IoT systems and IoT operations (Eric Vyncke)

The management issue was discussed. 

Action item: Robert Wilton and Warren Kumari to draft a charter for a 
proposed IOTOPS Working Group.

6.3 Refactoring virtual hum tool (Alissa Cooper)

The management issue was discussed. 

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)


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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.