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minutes-interim-2020-iesg-26-202012031500-00
INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the December 03, 2020 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / IETF Chair, General Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Martin Duke (F5 Networks Inc) / Transport Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Wes Hardaker (USC/ISI) / IAB Liaison
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area
Erik Kline (Loon LLC) / Internet Area
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area
Murray Kucherawy (Facebook) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Barry Leiba (Futurewei Technologies) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area

REGRETS
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Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director

OBSERVERS
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Darren Dukes
Adrian Farrel
Peter Koch
Brenda Lyons
David Millman
Brian Sipos
Greg Wood

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the November 05, 2020 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the November 05, 2020 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.
   
1.2 Documents Approved since the November 05, 2020 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
 o draft-ietf-idr-rfc8203bis-08  (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-idr-flow-spec-v6-21  (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-calext-jscalendar-32  (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-core-stateless-08  (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-zone-digest-14  (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-avtcore-cc-feedback-message-09  (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-extra-imap-fetch-preview-10  (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-ippm-stamp-option-tlv-10  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
  NONE

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
 o Eric Vyncke to follow up on the suggestion at IETF 108 to share a 
   list of grammar checking tools with the community.
 o Alvaro Retana to find designated experts for RFC 8919 [IANA 
   #1181014].
   
IN PROGRESS:
 o Eric Vyncke to write up draft text on Special Interest 
   groups and send to the IESG for comment. 
 o Alvaro Retana, Benjamin Kaduk, and Murray Kucherawy to look at 
   updating the I-D Checklist.
 o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft text on guidance 
   regarding the number of document authors on documents. 
 o Alvaro Retana, Rob Wilton, Alissa Cooper, and Martin Vigoureux to 
   draft text on the framework for a long-term future plan for the IETF. 
 o Roman Danyliw to draft text for a request to the Tools Team to move 
   BoF requests from the BoF Wiki to the Datatracker. 
 o Alvaro Retana, Warren Kumari, and Barry Leiba to draft clarifying 
   text on Errata Best Practices.
 o Martin Vigoureux and Alvaro Retana to work with Jay Daley on the 
   process for using EthicsPoint incident management software as 
   the mechanism of private feedback and anonymous reporting.
 o Erik Kline to find designated Experts for RFC  8915 [IANA #1179647].
 o Roman Danyliw & Ben Kaduk to find secondary designated experts for 
   RFC 7107, RFC 7114, RFC 8411, and RFC 8696 [IANA #1181828].
 o Warren Kumari, Deborah Brungard, Stephen Farrell, and Jay Daley to 
   investigate ways to recruit, recognize, and retain volunteers in the 
   IETF.
 o Ben Kaduk to find designated experts for RFC 8782 [IANA #1182453].
 o Erik Kline to find designated experts for RFC 8928 [IANA #1183445].
 
NEW:
 NONE 
      
2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps-20  - IETF stream
    The BGP Tunnel Encapsulation Attribute (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw, Benjamin Kaduk, Erik Kline, and Magnus 
Westerlund.*

  o draft-ietf-detnet-mpls-over-udp-ip-07  - IETF stream
    DetNet Data Plane: MPLS over UDP/IP (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Magnus Westerlund.*

  o draft-ietf-ccamp-layer0-types-08  - IETF stream
    A YANG Data Model for Layer 0 Types (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Deborah Brungard confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-yang-27  - IETF stream
    A YANG Data Model for WSON (Wavelength Switched Optical Networks)
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Deborah Brungard confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.

2.1.2 Returning items
    
  o draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis-29  - IETF stream
    Bundle Protocol Version 7 (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

Magnus Westerlund will request an additional Last Call on the document.

  o draft-ietf-dtn-tcpclv4-23  - IETF stream
    Delay-Tolerant Networking TCP Convergence Layer Protocol Version 4
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve 
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.* Magnus Westerlund will request an 
additional Last Call on the document.

  o draft-ietf-dtn-bpsec-25  - IETF stream
    Bundle Protocol Security Specification (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve 
points raised by Martin Duke.* Magnus Westerlund will request an 
additional Last Call on the document.

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-suit-information-model-08  - IETF stream
    An Information Model for Firmware Updates in IoT Devices
    (Informational)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action 
Announcement once Roman Danyliw confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-anima-grasp-api-08  - IETF stream
    Generic Autonomic Signaling Protocol Application Program Interface
    (GRASP API) (Informational)
    Token: Robert Wilton

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action 
Announcement once Robert Wilton confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  NONE

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1181014] Designated experts for RFC 8919 (Alvaro Retana)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Les Ginsberg
(ginsberg@cisco.com) and Chris Hopps (chopps@chopps.org) as the 
designated experts for RFC 8919.

6.2 [IANA #1182453] Designated experts for RFC 8782 (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. An action item to find designated 
experts for RFC 8782 was assigned to Benjamin Kaduk prior to the start 
of the teleconference.

6.3 Special Interest Groups (Eric Vyncke)

The management issue was discussed.

6.4 Session Lengths for IETF 110 (Alissa Cooper and Liz Flynn)

The management issue was discussed.

6.5 [IANA #1183445] Designated experts for RFC 8928 (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. An action item to find designated 
experts for RFC 8928 was assigned to Erik Kline prior to the start of 
the teleconference.

6.6 [IANA #1184035] Designated experts for RFC 8935 (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. An action item to find designated 
experts for RFC 8935 was assigned to Benjamin Kaduk prior to the start 
of the teleconference.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.