Minutes interim-2021-iesg-01 2021-01-07 15:00
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the January 07, 2021 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / IETF Chair, General Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Martin Duke (F5 Networks Inc) / Transport Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Wes Hardaker (USC/ISI) / IAB Liaison
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area
Erik Kline (Loon LLC) / Internet Area
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area
Murray Kucherawy (Facebook) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Barry Leiba (Futurewei Technologies) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area

REGRETS
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Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director

OBSERVERS
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Nick Banks
Mike Bishop
Chris Box
Rob Brown
Lars Eggert
Adrian Farrel
Brenda Lyons
David Millman
Lucas Purdue
Rene Struik
Greg Wood

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the December 17, 2020 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the December 17, 2020 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.
   
1.2 Documents Approved since the December 17, 2020 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
 o draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-28  (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-regext-rdap-partial-response-16  (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header-14  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
 o draft-ietf-bmwg-b2b-frame-04  (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
 NONE
 
IN PROGRESS:    
 o Alvaro Retana, Benjamin Kaduk, and Murray Kucherawy to look at 
   updating the I-D Checklist.
 o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft text on guidance 
   regarding the number of document authors on documents. 
 o Roman Danyliw to draft text for a request to the Tools Team to move 
   BoF requests from the BoF Wiki to the Datatracker. 
 o Alvaro Retana, Warren Kumari, and Barry Leiba to draft clarifying 
   text on Errata Best Practices.
 o Martin Vigoureux and Alvaro Retana to work with Jay Daley on the 
   process for using EthicsPoint incident management software as 
   the mechanism of private feedback and anonymous reporting. 
 o Erik Kline to find designated Experts for RFC  8915 [IANA #1179647].
 o Warren Kumari, Deborah Brungard, Stephen Farrell, and Jay Daley to 
   investigate ways to recruit, recognize, and retain volunteers in the 
   IETF.
 o Erik Kline to find designated experts for RFC 8928 [IANA #1183445].
 o Benjamin Kaduk to find designated experts for RFC 8935 [IANA 
   #1184035].
 o Benjamin Kaduk to find designated experts for RFC 8879 [IANA 
   #1184206].
 o Benjamin Kaduk to talk to Kathleen Moriarty about status of 
   draft-seantek-ldap-pkcs9.
   
NEW:
 NONE

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13-13  - IETF stream
    Using EAP-TLS with TLS 1.3 (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk and Robert Wilton.*

  o draft-ietf-tls-external-psk-importer-06  - IETF stream
    Importing External PSKs for TLS (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Martin Duke.*

  o draft-ietf-quic-transport-33  - IETF stream
    QUIC: A UDP-Based Multiplexed and Secure Transport (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk, Magnus Westerlund, and Robert Wilton.*

  o draft-ietf-quic-recovery-33  - IETF stream
    QUIC Loss Detection and Congestion Control (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Magnus Westerlund confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-quic-tls-33  - IETF stream
    Using TLS to Secure QUIC (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

  o draft-ietf-quic-invariants-12  - IETF stream
    Version-Independent Properties of QUIC (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Magnus Westerlund confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-detnet-security-13  - IETF stream
    Deterministic Networking (DetNet) Security Considerations
    (Informational)
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw, Benjamin Kaduk, Magnus Westerlund.*

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
    
  o draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand-09  - IETF stream
    Additional Criteria for Nominating Committee Eligibility
    (Experimental)
    Token: Alissa Cooper

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be
completed by Alissa Cooper. The Secretariat will send an individual
submission Document Action Announcement.

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

  o conflict-review-yang-tls-tls13-sm-suites-01
    IETF conflict review for draft-yang-tls-tls13-sm-suites
      draft-yang-tls-tls13-sm-suites-06
      ShangMi (SM) Cipher Suites for Transport Layer Security (TLS)
    Protocol Version 1.3 (ISE: Informational)
    Token: Benjamin Kaduk

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response
prepared by Benjamin Kaduk.

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.