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Date and time 2021-01-21 15:00
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minutes-interim-2021-iesg-03-202101211500-00
INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the January 21, 2021 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / IETF Chair, General Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Martin Duke (F5 Networks Inc) / Transport Area
Lars Eggert (NetApp) / incoming IETF Chair, General Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Wes Hardaker (USC/ISI) / IAB Liaison
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area
Erik Kline (Google) / Internet Area
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area
Murray Kucherawy (Facebook) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Barry Leiba (Futurewei Technologies) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / incoming Applications and Real-Time 
  Area
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Ericsson) / incoming Transport Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / incoming Routing Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area

REGRETS
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Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director

OBSERVERS
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Mike Bishop
Alan Findell
Matt Joras
Brenda Lyons
Lucas Pardue
Adam Roach
Rene Struik 
Dmitri Tikhonov
Greg Wood

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the January 07, 2021 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the January 07, 2021 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.
   
1.2 Documents Approved since the January 07, 2021 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
 o draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-28  (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-pd-relay-requirements-05  (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-tcpm-rack-15  (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-regext-rdap-partial-response-16  (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-ipsecme-ipv6-ipv4-codes-06  (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header-14  (Proposed Standard)
 
1.2.2 Document Actions
 o draft-ietf-bmwg-b2b-frame-04  (Informational)
 o draft-ietf-anima-grasp-api-10  (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
 o Benjamin Kaduk to talk to Kathleen Moriarty about status of 
  draft-seantek-ldap-pkcs9.
 
IN PROGRESS: 
 o Alvaro Retana, Benjamin Kaduk, and Murray Kucherawy to look at 
   updating the I-D Checklist.
 o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft text on guidance 
   regarding the number of document authors on documents. 
 o Roman Danyliw to draft text for a request to the Tools Team to move 
   BoF requests from the BoF Wiki to the Datatracker. 
 o Alvaro Retana, Warren Kumari, and Barry Leiba to draft clarifying 
   text on Errata Best Practices.
 o Martin Vigoureux and Alvaro Retana to work with Jay Daley on the 
   process for using EthicsPoint incident management software as 
   the mechanism of private feedback and anonymous reporting.
 o Erik Kline to find designated Experts for RFC  8915 [IANA #1179647].
 o Warren Kumari, Deborah Brungard, Stephen Farrell, and Jay Daley to 
   investigate ways to recruit, recognize, and retain volunteers in the 
   IETF.
 o Erik Kline to find designated experts for RFC 8928 [IANA #1183445].
 o Benjamin Kaduk to find designated experts for RFC 8935 [IANA 
   #1184035].
 o Benjamin Kaduk to find designated experts for RFC 8879 [IANA 
   #1184206].
 o Robert Wilton to find designated experts for RFC 8819 [IANA 
   #1186621]. 
 o Robert Wilton, Alissa Cooper, Alvaro Retana, and Warren Kumari to
   report back to the IESG on the impact of COVID-19 to the IETF in
   January 2021.
 o Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for RFC 8839 [IANA 
   #1187517].

NEW:
  NONE
 
2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-tls-oldversions-deprecate-11  - IETF stream
    Deprecating TLSv1.0 and TLSv1.1 (Best Current Practice)
    Token: Benjamin Kaduk

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Benjamin Kaduk. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-bess-evpn-proxy-arp-nd-11  - IETF stream
    Operational Aspects of Proxy-ARP/ND in EVPN Networks (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Martin Vigoureux

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Erik Kline and Eric Vyncke.*

  o draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology-05  - IETF stream
    Special Purpose Label terminology (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Deborah Brungard. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-core-dev-urn-10  - IETF stream
    Uniform Resource Names for Device Identifiers (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Barry Leiba

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Barry Leiba. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-spring-sr-yang-29  - IETF stream
    YANG Data Model for Segment Routing (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Martin Vigoureux

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw.*

  o draft-ietf-quic-http-33  - IETF stream
    Hypertext Transfer Protocol Version 3 (HTTP/3) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk and Barry Leiba.*

  o draft-ietf-quic-qpack-20  - IETF stream
    QPACK: Header Compression for HTTP/3 (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Magnus Westerlund confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-pce-association-policy-16  - IETF stream
    Path Computation Element (PCE) Communication Protocol (PCEP)
    extension for associating Policies and Label Switched Paths (LSPs)
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Deborah Brungard. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

2.1.2 Returning items
  o draft-ietf-cose-x509-08  - IETF stream
    CBOR Object Signing and Encryption (COSE): Header parameters for
    carrying and referencing X.509 certificates (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Barry Leiba

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Barry Leiba confirms that the announcement is ready to 
be sent.

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  o status-change-tls-oldversions-to-historic-01  - IETF stream
    Moving TLSv1.0, TLSv1.1, and DTLSv1.0 to Historic (None)
    Token: Benjamin Kaduk

The IESG agreed to change the status of the following RFCs from Proposed
Standard to Historic:

  o RFC2246
  o RFC4346
  o RFC4347

The Secretariat will send a Protocol Action Announcement for each
Document.

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-15  - IETF stream
    Path Computation Element (PCE) based Traffic Engineering (TE) in
    Native IP Networks (Informational)
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Deborah Brungard. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement.

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
    
  o draft-foudil-securitytxt-10  - IETF stream
    A File Format to Aid in Security Vulnerability Disclosure
    (Informational)
    Token: Benjamin Kaduk

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alissa Cooper, Roman Danyliw, Murray Kucherawy, Barry 
Leiba, and Robert Wilton.*

3.2.2 Returning items
  o draft-kucherawy-rfc8478bis-06 (Has RFC Editor Note)  - IETF stream
    Zstandard Compression and the application/zstd Media Type
    (Informational)
    Token: Barry Leiba

The IESG confirmed that there were no changes needed to the document 
from the second IETF Last Call, and that the RFC Editor can continue 
processing the document.

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  o status-change-tls-des-idea-ciphers-to-historic-01  - IETF stream
    Moving single-DES and IDEA TLS ciphersuites to Historic (None)
    Token: Benjamin Kaduk

The IESG agreed to change the status of RFC5469 from Informational to 
Historic. The Secretariat will send a Document Action Announcement.

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  NONE

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

  o WebRTC Ingest Signaling over HTTPS (wish)
     Area: ART (Murray Kucherawy)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message 
to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda 
for the next IESG Teleconference (February 04, 2021).

  o IOT Operations (iotops)
     Area: OPS (Warren Kumari)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review pending edits to
the text of the charter to be provided by Warren Kumari. The Secretariat 
will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to
new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda
for the next IESG Teleconference (February 04, 2021).

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  o Authentication and Authorization for Constrained Environments (ace)
    Area: SEC (Benjamin Kaduk)

The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter 
pending edits to the text of the charter to be provided by Benjamin 
Kaduk. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a 
separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG 
on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (February 04, 2021).

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1186621] Designated experts for RFC 8819 (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. An action item to find designated 
experts for RFC 8819 was assigned to Robert Wilton prior to the start of 
the teleconference.

6.2 [IANA #1186792] Renewing early allocations for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-
    bum-procedure-updates (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early 
allocations for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-bum-procedure-updates.

6.3 Approving Ls to 3GPP (Magnus Westerlund)

The management issue was discussed.

6.4 [IANA #1187517] Designated experts for RFC 8839 (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. An action item to find designated 
experts for RFC 8839 was assigned to Murray Kucherawy prior to the start 
of the teleconference.

6.5 Executive Session: LLC Board slot (Alissa Cooper)

The management issue was discussed in an executive session. The IESG 
decided to appoint incoming IETF Chair Lars Eggert to the LLC Board 
beginning when his chair term starts.

6.6 Expedited processing for draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand (Alissa 
    Cooper)

The management issue was discussed.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.