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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the February 04, 2021 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / IETF Chair, General Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Martin Duke (F5 Networks Inc) / Transport Area
Lars Eggert (NetApp) / incoming IETF Chair, General Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area
Erik Kline (Google) / Internet Area
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area
Murray Kucherawy (Facebook) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Barry Leiba (Futurewei Technologies) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / incoming Applications and Real-Time 
  Area
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Ericsson) / incoming Transport Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / incoming Routing Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area

REGRETS
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Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Wes Hardaker (USC/ISI) / IAB Liaison

OBSERVERS
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Colin Perkins
Rene Struik
Greg Wood

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the January 21, 2021 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the January 21, 2021 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.
   
1.2 Documents Approved since the January 21, 2021 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
o draft-ietf-quic-tls-34 (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover-15 (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-spring-sr-yang-30 (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-cose-rfc8152bis-struct-15 (Internet Standard)
o draft-ietf-jmap-mdn-17 (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-regext-dnrd-objects-mapping-11 (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo-44 (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-dnsop-server-cookies-05 (Proposed Standard)
 
1.2.2 Document Actions
o draft-ietf-rtcweb-sdp-14 (Informational)
o draft-ietf-lwig-tcp-constrained-node-networks-13 (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
o Robert Wilton to find designated experts for RFC 8819 [IANA #1186621]. 
o Barry Leiba to find designated experts for RFC 8798 [IANA #1187946].
o Barry Leiba to find designated experts for RFC 8847 [IANA #1187672].

IN PROGRESS:
o Alvaro Retana, Benjamin Kaduk, and Murray Kucherawy to look at 
  updating the I-D Checklist.
o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft text on guidance 
  regarding the number of document authors on documents. 
o Roman Danyliw to draft text for a request to the Tools Team to move 
  BoF requests from the BoF Wiki to the Datatracker. 
o Alvaro Retana, Warren Kumari, and Barry Leiba to draft clarifying 
  text on Errata Best Practices.
o Martin Vigoureux and Alvaro Retana to work with Jay Daley on the 
  process for using EthicsPoint incident management software as 
  the mechanism of private feedback and anonymous reporting.
o Erik Kline to find designated Experts for RFC  8915 [IANA #1179647].
o Warren Kumari, Deborah Brungard, Stephen Farrell, and Jay Daley to 
  investigate ways to recruit, recognize, and retain volunteers in the 
  IETF.
o Erik Kline to find designated experts for RFC 8928 [IANA #1183445].
o Benjamin Kaduk to find designated experts for RFC 8935 [IANA 
  #1184035].
o Benjamin Kaduk to find designated experts for RFC 8879 [IANA 
  #1184206].
o Robert Wilton, Alissa Cooper, Alvaro Retana, and Warren Kumari to
  report back to the IESG on the impact of COVID-19 to the IETF in 
  January 2021.
o Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for RFC 8839 [IANA 
  #1187517].
o Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for RFC 8855 [IANA 
  #1187734].

NEW: 
o Éric Vyncke to draft text for the WG Chairs about requesting early 
  review of documents by existing Directorates.

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-dime-group-signaling-13  - IETF stream
    Diameter Group Signaling (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Robert Wilton

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Robert Wilton confirms that the announcement is ready
to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-extra-imap4rev2-27  - IETF stream
    Internet Message Access Protocol (IMAP) - Version 4rev2 (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Murray Kucherawy

Barry Leiba formally recused himself from the discussion. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Murray Kucherawy confirms that the announcement
is ready to be sent.

The Secretariat will add the following RFCs to the downref registry:

 - RFC 2180 (Informational)
 - RFC 4549 (Informational)

2.1.2 Returning items
    
  o draft-ietf-oauth-jwt-introspection-response-10  - IETF stream
    JWT Response for OAuth Token Introspection (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk and Robert Wilton.*

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
  NONE

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  o conflict-review-oran-icnrg-qosarch-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-oran-icnrg-qosarch
      draft-oran-icnrg-qosarch-06
      Considerations in the development of a QoS Architecture for
    CCNx-like ICN protocols (IRTF: Informational)
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that
includes a conflict review response prepared by Magnus Westerlund.

  o conflict-review-irtf-panrg-what-not-to-do-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-panrg-what-not-to-do
      draft-irtf-panrg-what-not-to-do-16
      Path Aware Networking: Obstacles to Deployment (A Bestiary of
    Roads Not Taken) (IRTF: Informational)
    Token: Martin Duke

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that
includes a conflict review response prepared by Martin Duke.

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  o Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers (rtcweb)
      Area: ART (Murray Kucherawy)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message 
to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda 
for the next IESG Teleconference 02-18-2021.

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  o WebRTC Ingest Signaling over HTTPS (wish)
       Area: ART (Murray Kucherawy)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. 

  o IOT Operations (iotops)
      Area: OPS (Warren Kumari)

The charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve 
points raised by Martin Duke.*  

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  o Global Routing Operations (grow)
       Area: OPS (Warren Kumari)

The revised charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Magnus Westerlund.* 

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1187946] Designated experts for RFC 8798 (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Ari Keranen
(ari.keranen@ericsson.com) as the designated expert for 8798.

6.2 IETF 110 Agenda Conflict Resolution (Liz Flynn)

The management issue was discussed.  

6.3 [IANA #1187672] Designated experts for RFC 8847 (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Simon Pietro 
Romano (spromano@unina.it) as the designated expert for 8847.

6.4 [IANA #1187734] Designated experts for RFC 8855 (IANA)

The management issue was discussed.  An action item to find designated 
experts for RFC 8855 was assigned to Murray Kucherawy prior to the start
of the teleconference.

6.5 [IANA #1186621] Designated experts for RFC 8819 (Robert Wilton)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Christian Hopps,
(chopps@chopps.org), Lou Berger (lberger@labn.net), and Dean Bogdanovic 
(ivandean@gmail.com) as the designated experts for 8819.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.