Minutes interim-2021-iesg-09 2021-04-22 14:00
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the April 22, 2021 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Ben Campbell (Independent Consultant) / IAB Liaison
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Martin Duke (F5 Networks Inc) / Transport Area
Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IETF Chair, General Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area
Erik Kline (Google) / Internet Area
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area
Murray Kucherawy (Facebook) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Ericsson) / Transport Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area

REGRETS
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Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison

OBSERVERS
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Duncan
Doug Dodson
Enno Rey
Greg Wood

1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the April 08, 2021 Teleconference were approved.
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the April 08, 2021 Teleconference were
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 

1.2 Documents Approved since the April 08, 2021 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
o draft-ietf-i2nsf-sdn-ipsec-flow-protection-14  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-bess-evpn-na-flags-09  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
o draft-ietf-bess-evpn-oam-req-frmwk-10  (Informational)
o draft-crocker-inreply-react-14  (Experimental)
o draft-ietf-babel-information-model-14  (Informational)
 
1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE: 
o Benjamin Kaduk to find designated experts for RFC 8935 [IANA 
  #1184035]. 
o Eric Vyncke to draft text for the WG Chairs about requesting early 
  review of documents by existing Directorates.
o Lars Eggert to update the text of the IESG Statement "Last Call 
  Guidance to the Community."
o Martin Duke to draft an email to the WG Chairs about session requests 
  for IETF 111.
o Erik Kline to find designated experts for RFC 8822 [IANA #1195655]. 
 
IN PROGRESS:   
o Alvaro Retana, Benjamin Kaduk, and Murray Kucherawy to look at   
  updating the I-D Checklist.
o Warren Kumari, Deborah Brungard, Stephen Farrell, and Jay Daley to 
  investigate ways to recruit, recognize, and retain volunteers in the 
  IETF.
o Alvaro Retana, Robert Wilton, and Martin Vigoureux to draft text on 
  the framework for a long-term future plan for the IETF.
o Alvaro Retana to draft text to update the IESG Statement on Internet
  Draft Authorship to include "Contributors."
o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft a note to wgchairs asking
  them to always confirm author/contributor status.
o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft text to include in the I-D
  submission tool warning about too many authors.
o Lars Eggert to update BCP 45.

NEW:
 NONE

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items

  o draft-ietf-roll-aodv-rpl-10  - IETF stream
    Supporting Asymmetric Links in Low Power Networks: AODV-RPL
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Alvaro Retana
 
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw, John Scudder, Eric Vyncke,
and Robert Wilton.*

  o draft-ietf-tls-dtls-connection-id-11  - IETF stream
    Connection Identifiers for DTLS 1.2 (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Benjamin Kaduk

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Benjamin Kaduk confirms that the announcement 
is ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-yang-10  - IETF stream
    A YANG Module for TACACS+ (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Robert Wilton

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw and Francesca Palombini.*

  o draft-ietf-idr-ext-opt-param-12  - IETF stream
    Extended Optional Parameters Length for BGP OPEN Message (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Alvaro Retana

John Scudder formally recused himself from the discussion. The document 
was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Alvaro 
Retana. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol 
Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-regext-secure-authinfo-transfer-06  - IETF stream
    Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) Secure Authorization
    Information for Transfer (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

  o draft-ietf-emu-eap-noob-04  - IETF stream
    Nimble out-of-band authentication for EAP (EAP-NOOB) (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk and Francesca Palombini.*

2.1.2 Returning items
    
  o draft-ietf-stir-cert-delegation-04  - IETF stream
    STIR Certificate Delegation (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a 
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-opsec-v6-26  - IETF stream
    Operational Security Considerations for IPv6 Networks
    (Informational)
    Token: Warren Kumari

Eric Vyncke formally recused himself from the discussion. The document 
was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The Secretariat will 
send a working group submission Document Action Announcement once Warren 
Kumari confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-dmarc-psd-12  - IETF stream
    Experimental DMARC Extension For Public Suffix Domains
    (Experimental)
    Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

  o draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6-ehs-packet-drops-06  - IETF stream
    Operational Implications of IPv6 Packets with Extension Headers
    (Informational)
    Token: Robert Wilton

Warren Kumari formally recused himself from the discussion. The document 
was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The Secretariat will 
send a working group submission Document Action Announcement once Robert 
Wilton confirms  that the announcement is ready to be sent.

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  NONE

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4.3 For action

  o conflict-review-yao-regext-bundling-registration-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-yao-regext-bundling-registration
      draft-yao-regext-bundling-registration-03
      Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) Domain Name Mapping
    Extension for Strict Bundling Registration (ISE: Informational)
    Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document was assigned to Murray Kucherawy for RFC 5742 review.

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

  o Effective Terminology in IETF Documents (term)
       Area: GEN (Lars Eggert)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message 
to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda 
for the next IESG Teleconference (May 06, 2021).

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review

  o Limited Additional Mechanisms for PKIX and SMIME (lamps)
       Area: SEC (Roman Danyliw)

The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter 
pending edits to the text of the charter to be provided by Roman 
Danyliw. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a 
separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG 
on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (May 06, 2021).

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1194832] Designated experts for RFC 9018 (Warren Kumari)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Donald Eastlake
<d3e3e3@gmail.com> as the second designated expert for RFC 9018.

6.2 [IANA #1184035] Designated experts for RFC 8935 (Benjamin Kaduk)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Mike Jones
<mbj@microsoft.com> and John Bradley <ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com> as the 
designated experts for RFC 8935.

6.3 [IANA #1195260] renewing early allocations for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-
    algo (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early
allocations for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo. 

6.4 [IANA #1195655] Designated experts for RFC 8822 (Erik Kline)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Donald Eastlake 
<d3e3e3@gmail.com> as the designated expert for RFC 8822.

6.5 Finalize the Retreat Agenda (Lars Eggert)

The management issue was discussed.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.