Minutes interim-2021-iesg-13 2021-06-03 14:00
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the June 03, 2021 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Ben Campbell (Independent Consultant) / IAB Liaison
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Martin Duke (F5 Networks Inc) / Transport Area
Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IETF Chair, General Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area
Erik Kline (Google) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Facebook) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Ericsson) / Transport Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area

REGRETS
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Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area

OBSERVERS
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Zafar Ali 
Karen O’Donoghue
Greg Wood

1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the May 20, 2021 Teleconference were approved.
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the May 20, 2021 Teleconference were
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 

1.2 Documents Approved since the May 20, 2021 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
o draft-ietf-core-new-block-14  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-avtcore-multi-party-rtt-mix-20  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-opsawg-finding-geofeeds-17  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-cbor-tags-oid-08  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
o draft-ietf-dmarc-psd-14  (Experimental)

DONE:
o Michelle Cotton to add conflict of interest text to the introductory 
  email sent to new Designated Experts.
o Zahed Sarker to find designated experts for RFC-ietf-dtn-bpsec [IANA 
  #1198662].
o Warren Kumari to find designated experts for RFC 8995 [IANA #1198192]. 
o Martin Duke to draft a proposal for 360 degree reviews of the IESG 
  members.
 
IN PROGRESS:
o Alvaro Retana, Benjamin Kaduk, and Murray Kucherawy to look at 
  updating the I-D Checklist.
o Warren Kumari, Deborah Brungard, Stephen Farrell, and Jay Daley to 
  investigate ways to recruit, recognize, and retain volunteers in the 
  IETF.
o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft a note to wgchairs asking 
  them to always confirm author/contributor status.
o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft text to include in the I-D
  submission tool warning about too many authors.
o John Scudder and Martin Duke to review the document shepherd templates 
  and propose changes to include updated questions and cross-area 
  checks.  
o Robert Wilton to draft text to expand the document shepherd write-up 
  section on use of YANG Models.
o Zahed Sarker and Michelle Cotton to draft text for prospective 
  Designated Experts on the basics of the IANA request process and "how 
  to be a designated expert."
o Robert Wilton to follow up with the IESG on small group project 
  assignments regarding topics identified through the poll taken at the 
  IESG retreat.  
o Eric Vyncke and Francesca Palombini to draft text for guidelines/best 
  practices for directorate reviewers.
o The IESG to report on the RFC 8989 experiment.
o Erik Kline to find designated experts for RFC 9031 [IANA #1198928].
    
NEW:
o  Murray Kucherawy to update BCP 97 to provide guidance about handling
   normative references to non-SDO documents.

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-6man-spring-srv6-oam-11  - IETF stream
    Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) in Segment
    Routing Networks with IPv6 Data plane (SRv6) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Erik Kline

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw, Benjamin Kaduk, and John Scudder.*

  o draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-08  - IETF stream
    Distributed Denial-of-Service Open Threat Signaling (DOTS) Signal
    Channel Specification (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Benjamin Kaduk

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Benjamin Kaduk. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement. The Secretariat will add RFC 
7918 to the downref registry.

  o draft-ietf-ntp-port-randomization-06  - IETF stream
    Port Randomization in the Network Time Protocol Version 4 (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Erik Kline

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Erik Kline confirms that the announcement is ready to 
be sent.

  o draft-ietf-payload-vp9-13  - IETF stream
    RTP Payload Format for VP9 Video (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk and Zahed Sarker.*

  o draft-ietf-core-senml-versions-03  - IETF stream
    SenML Features and Versions (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Francesca Palombini

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Francesca Palombini confirms that the announcement
is ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-dnsop-iana-class-type-yang-03  - IETF stream
    YANG Types for DNS Classes and Resource Record Types (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Warren Kumari

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Robert Wilton.*

2.1.2 Returning items
    
  o draft-ietf-ippm-capacity-metric-method-11  - IETF stream
    Metrics and Methods for One-way IP Capacity (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Martin Duke

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Martin Duke. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement. The Secretariat will add RFC 
8468 to the downref registry.

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
  NONE

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

  o conflict-review-camwinget-tls-ts13-macciphersuites-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-camwinget-tls-ts13-macciphersuites
      draft-camwinget-tls-ts13-macciphersuites-11
      TLS 1.3 Authentication and Integrity only Cipher Suites (ISE:
    Informational)
    Token: Benjamin Kaduk
    
The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response
prepared by Benjamin Kaduk.    

  o conflict-review-dukhovni-tls-dnssec-chain-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-dukhovni-tls-dnssec-chain
      draft-dukhovni-tls-dnssec-chain-06
      TLS DNSSEC Chain Extension (ISE: Experimental)
    Token: Benjamin Kaduk

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response
prepared by Benjamin Kaduk.    

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 AD 360 review (Martin Duke)

The management issue was discussed. 

6.2 [IANA #1197181] Renewing early allocations for draft-ietf-tls-dtls-
    connection-id (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early 
allocations for  draft-ietf-tls-dtls-connection-id.

6.3 [IANA #1198192] Designated expert for RFC8995 (IANA)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved Michael 
Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> and Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> 
as the designated experts for RFC 8995.

6.4 [IANA #1198662] Designated experts for RFC-ietf-dtn-bpsec (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Ken McKeever 
<Ken.McKeever@jhuapl.edu> and Edward J. Birrane 
<Edward.Birrane@jhuapl.edu> as the designated experts for rfc-ietf-dtn-
bpsec.

6.5 Changes in AUTH48 to draft-ietf-calext-jscalendar (Francesca 
    Palombini)

The management issue was discussed. 

6.6 [IANA #1197180] Renewing early allocations for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-
    optimized-ir (IANA)

The management issue was postponed to the next IESG Teleconference (June 
17, 2021).

6.7 [IANA #1198928] Designated experts for RFC9031 (IANA)

The management issue was discussed.  An action item to find designated 
experts for RFC 9031 was assigned to Erik Kline prior to the start
of the teleconference.

6.8 [IANA #1197184] Renewing early allocations for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-
    ipvpn-interworking (IANA)

The management issue was postponed to the next IESG Teleconference (June 
17, 2021).

6.9 [IANA #1198995] Management Item: Acceptance of media type 
    registration from standards organization ISO (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. This item will be discussed further 
at the next IESG Teleconference (June 17, 2021).

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.