Minutes interim-2021-iesg-14 2021-06-17 14:00
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the June 17, 2021 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Ben Campbell (Independent Consultant) / IAB Liaison
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Martin Duke (F5 Networks Inc) / Transport Area
Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IETF Chair, General Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area
Erik Kline (Google) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Facebook) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Ericsson) / Transport Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area

REGRETS
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Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair

OBSERVERS
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Tim Costello
Amy Creamer
Bob Hinden
Julian Reschke
Lee-Berkeley Shaw
Greg Wood

1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the June 03, 2021 Teleconference were approved.
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the June 03, 2021 Teleconference were
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 

The minutes of the IETF 111 BoF Coordination teleconference were approved. 
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the June 03, 2021 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions

1.2.2 Document Actions
o draft-ietf-dprive-xfr-over-tls-12  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-payload-vp9-16  (Proposed Standard)
 
1.3 Review of Action Items
 NONE

DONE:
o Zahed Sarker and Michelle Cotton to draft text for prospective 
  Designated Experts on the basics of the IANA request process and 
  "how to be a designated expert."
o Robert Wilton to follow up with the IESG on small group project 
  assignments regarding topics identified through the poll taken at the 
  IESG retreat. 
o Erik Kline to find designated experts for RFC 9031 [IANA #1198928]. 
 
IN PROGRESS: 
o Alvaro Retana, Benjamin Kaduk, and Murray Kucherawy to look at 
  updating the I-D Checklist.
o Warren Kumari, Deborah Brungard, Stephen Farrell, and Jay Daley to 
  investigate ways to recruit, recognize, and retain volunteers in the 
  IETF.
o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft a note to wgchairs asking
  them to always confirm author/contributor status.
o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft text to include in the I-D 
  submission tool warning about too many authors.
o John Scudder and Martin Duke to review the document shepherd templates
  and propose changes to include updated questions and cross-area 
  checks.
o Robert Wilton to draft text to expand the document shepherd write-up 
  section on use of YANG Models. 
o Eric Vyncke and Francesca Palombini to draft text for guidelines/best 
  practices
  for directorate reviewers.
o Murray Kucherawy to update BCP 97 to provide guidance about handling 
  normative references to non-SDO documents.
o Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for RFC 9036 [IANA 
  #1199105].
o Robert Wilton, Alvaro Retana, and Warren Kumari to report back to the 
  IESG on the impact of COVID-19 to the IETF in June 2021.
o Lars Eggert to update BCP 45.

UPDATED: 
o The IESG to report on the RFC 8989 experiment after the 2021 NomCom is 
  seated (likely July 2021)

NEW:
 NONE

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-idr-bgp-optimal-route-reflection-26  - IETF stream
    BGP Optimal Route Reflection (BGP-ORR) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Alvaro Retana. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-httpbis-messaging-16  - IETF stream
    HTTP/1.1 (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Francesca Palombini

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

  o draft-ietf-httpbis-semantics-16  - IETF stream
    HTTP Semantics (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Francesca Palombini

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

  o draft-ietf-httpbis-cache-16  - IETF stream
    HTTP Caching (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Francesca Palombini

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Francesca Palombini confirms that the announcement
is ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-payload-rtp-jpegxs-16  - IETF stream
    RTP Payload Format for ISO/IEC 21122 (JPEG XS) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Zahed Sarker.*

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
  NONE

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  NONE

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

  o Oblivious HTTP (ohttp)
    Area: SEC (Francesca Palombini)
    
The charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Zaheduzzaman Sarker, Eric Vyncke, and Robert Wilton.*

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1197180] Renewing early allocations for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-
    optimized-ir (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early 
allocations for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-optimized-ir.

6.2 [IANA #1197184] Renewing early allocations for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-
    ipvpn-interworking (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early 
allocations for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ipvpn-interworking.

6.3 [IANA #1198995] Acceptance of media type registration from standards 
    organization ISO/TC 184/SC 4 - Industrial Data (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG asks IANA to process this 
media-type request, and to add ISO/TC 184/SC 4 - Industrial Data to the 
'Standards-related organizations that have registered Media Types in the 
Standards Tree.' 

6.4 IETF 111 BoFs decisions (Secretariat)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved the following BOF 
requests for IETF 111:

 o Application-aware Networking (APN)
 o DANE for IoT Service Hardening (DANISH)
 o MAC Address Device Identification for Network and Application 
   Services (MADINAS)
 o Oblivious HTTP (OHTTP)

The IESG will follow up with the proponents for the SCIM Industry Next 
Steps (SINS) BOF proposal to ask for more information before making a 
decision about whether to approve it.

6.5 [IANA #1198928] Designated experts for RFC9031 (Erik Kline)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Malisa Vucinic 
<malisa.vucinic@inria.fr> and Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> 
as the designated experts for RFC 9031.

6.6 [IANA #1199105] Designated experts for RFC 9036 (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. An action item to find designated 
experts for RFC 9036 was assigned to Murray Kucherawy prior to the start 
of the teleconference.

6.7 Finalization on blog on "Unofficial side meetings at IETF
    meetings" (Lars Eggert)

The management issue was discussed.  

6.8 [IANA #1199760] Renewing early allocation for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-
    sbfd-extensions (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early 
allocations for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sbfd-extensions.

6.9 [IANA #1199761] Renewing early allocation for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-
    app-specific-attr (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early 
allocations for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-app-specific-attr.

6.10 [IANA #1199764] Renewing early allocations for draft-ietf-idr-
    bgpls-srv6-ext (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early 
allocations for draft-ietf-idr-bgpls-srv6-ext.

6.11 [IANA #1199765] Renewing early allocations for draft-ietf-lsr-
    dynamic-flooding (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early 
allocations for draft-ietf-lsr-dynamic-flooding.

6.12 [IANA #1199786] Renewing early allocations for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-
    ls-flex-algo (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early 
allocations for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.