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Meeting Minutes Internet Engineering Steering Group (iesg) IETF
Date and time 2021-07-01 14:00
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minutes-interim-2021-iesg-15-202107011400-00
INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the July 01, 2021 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Ben Campbell (Independent Consultant) / IAB Liaison
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Martin Duke (F5 Networks Inc) / Transport Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area
Erik Kline (Google) / Internet Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Ericsson) / Transport Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area

REGRETS
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Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IETF Chair, General Area
Murray Kucherawy (Facebook) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area

OBSERVERS
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Stuart Card
Tim Costello
Brenda Lyons
Lee-Berkeley Shaw
Greg Wood

1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the June 17, 2021 Teleconference were approved.
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the June 17, 2021 Teleconference were
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 

1.2 Documents Approved since the June 17, 2021 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions
o draft-ietf-acme-star-delegation-09  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-dnsop-iana-class-type-yang-05  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-yang-12  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
 NONE
 
1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
 NONE
 
IN PROGRESS:
o Alvaro Retana, Benjamin Kaduk, and Murray Kucherawy to look at 
  updating the I-D Checklist.
o Warren Kumari, Deborah Brungard, Stephen Farrell, and Jay Daley to 
  investigate ways to recruit, recognize, and retain volunteers in the 
  IETF.
o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft a note to wgchairs asking 
  them to always confirm author/contributor status.
o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft text to include in the I-D 
  submission tool warning about too many authors.
o John Scudder and Martin Duke to review the document shepherd templates 
  and propose changes to include updated questions and cross-area 
  checks.
o Robert Wilton to draft text to expand the document shepherd write-up 
  section on use of YANG Models.
o Eric Vyncke and Francesca Palombini to draft text for guidelines/best 
  practices for directorate reviewers.
o The IESG to report on the RFC 8989 experiment after the 2021 NomCom is
  seated (likely July 2021).
o Murray Kucherawy to update BCP 97 to provide guidance about handling 
  normative references to non-SDO documents.
o Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for RFC 9036 [IANA 
  #1199105].
o Robert Wilton, Alvaro Retana, and Warren Kumari to report back to the 
  IESG on the impact of COVID-19 to the IETF in July 2021.
o Lars Eggert to update BCP 45.

NEW:
o Lars Eggert, John Scudder, Benjamin Kaduk, Mirja Kuehlewind, Murray
  Kucherawy and Warren Kumari to work on short-term improvements to
  "IETF Culture, Toxicity, Inclusion.”
o Eric Vyncke, Lars Eggert, and Robert Wilton to work on improvements to
  authoring and reviewing tools.
 
2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-6man-grand-06  - IETF stream
    Gratuitous Neighbor Discovery: Creating Neighbor Cache Entries on
    First-Hop Routers (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Erik Kline

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Erik Kline confirms that the announcement is ready
to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-ntp-yang-data-model-15  - IETF stream
    A YANG Data Model for NTP (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Erik Kline

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk, Francesca Palombini, and Eric Vyncke.*

  o draft-ietf-dtn-bpsec-default-sc-08  - IETF stream
    BPSec Default Security Contexts (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Zaheduzzaman Sarker

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Martin Duke, Benjamin Kaduk, Murray Kucherawy, and 
Francesca Palombini.*

  o draft-ietf-oauth-par-08  - IETF stream
    OAuth 2.0 Pushed Authorization Requests (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Roman Danyliw confirms that the announcement is
ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-stir-enhance-rfc8226-04  - IETF stream
    Enhanced JWT Claim Constraints for STIR Certificates (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE 

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-drip-reqs-16  - IETF stream
    Drone Remote Identification Protocol (DRIP) Requirements
    (Informational)
    Token: Eric Vyncke

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw.*

  o draft-ietf-perc-dtls-tunnel-09  - IETF stream
    DTLS Tunnel between a Media Distributor and Key Distributor to
    Facilitate Key Exchange (Informational)
    Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

  o draft-ietf-bmwg-evpntest-09  - IETF stream
    Benchmarking Methodology for EVPN and PBB-EVPN (Informational)
    Token: Warren Kumari

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Martin Duke, Erik Kline, Murray Kucherawy,
Zaheduzzaman Sarkar, and Eric Vyncke.*

3.1.2 Returning items
    
  o draft-ietf-trans-rfc6962-bis-39  - IETF stream
    Certificate Transparency Version 2.0 (Experimental)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The
Secretariat will send an individual submission Document Action
Announcement once Roman Danyliw confirms that the announcement
is ready to be sent.

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  NONE

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4.3 For action

  o conflict-review-zhu-intarea-gma-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-zhu-intarea-gma
      draft-zhu-intarea-gma-10
      Generic Multi-Access (GMA) Encapsulation Protocol (ISE:
    Experimental)
    Token: Lars Eggert
    
The document was assigned to Erik Kline for RFC 5742 review.    

  o conflict-review-irtf-icnrg-icnlowpan-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-icnrg-icnlowpan
      draft-irtf-icnrg-icnlowpan-10
      ICN Adaptation to LoWPAN Networks (ICN LoWPAN) (IRTF:
    Experimental)
    Token: Lars Eggert
    
The document was assigned to Erik Kline for RFC 5742 review.     

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

  o Media Type Maintenance (mediaman)
    Area: ART (Murray Kucherawy)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message 
to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda 
for the next IESG Teleconference (July 15, 2021).

4.1.2 Proposed for approval

  o Serialising Extended Data About Times and Events (sedate)
    Area: ART (Francesca Palombini)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. 

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1200145] Management Item: Acceptance of media type 
    registration from standards organization Gedcom (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. This management item has been 
postponed to the next IESG Teleconference (July 15, 2021). 

6.2 IESG Telechat Schedule between IETF 111 and IETF 112 (Secretariat)

The management issue was discussed.  

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.