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Date and time 2021-07-15 14:00
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minutes-interim-2021-iesg-16-202107151400-00
INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the July 15, 2021 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Ben Campbell (Independent Consultant) / IAB Liaison
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Martin Duke (F5 Networks Inc) / Transport Area
Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IETF Chair, General Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area
Erik Kline (Google) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Facebook) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Ericsson) / Transport Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area

REGRETS
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Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area

OBSERVERS
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Lee-Berkeley Shaw
Greg Wood

1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the July 01, 2021 Teleconference were approved.
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the July 01, 2021 Teleconference were
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 

1.2 Documents Approved since the July 01, 2021 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions
o draft-ietf-grow-bmp-local-rib-12  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-stir-enhance-rfc8226-04 (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
o draft-foudil-securitytxt-12  (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
o Alvaro Retana, Benjamin Kaduk, and Murray Kucherawy to look at updating
  the I-D Checklist. 

IN PROGRESS:  
o Warren Kumari, Deborah Brungard, Stephen Farrell, and Jay Daley to 
  investigate ways to recruit, recognize, and retain volunteers in the 
  IETF.
o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft a note to wgchairs asking 
  them to always confirm author/contributor status.
o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft text to include in the I-D
  submission tool warning about too many authors.
o Eric Vyncke and Francesca Palombini to draft text for guidelines/best 
  practices for directorate reviewers.
o The IESG to report on the RFC 8989 experiment after the 2021 NomCom is 
  seated (likely July 2021).
o Murray Kucherawy to update BCP 97 to provide guidance about handling 
  normative references to non-SDO documents.
o Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for RFC 9036 [IANA 
  #1199105].
o Robert Wilton, Alvaro Retana, and Warren Kumari to report back to the 
  IESG on the impact of COVID-19 to the IETF in July 2021.
o Lars Eggert to update BCP 45.
o Lars Eggert, John Scudder, Benjamin Kaduk, Mirja Kuehlewind, Murray 
  Kucherawy and Warren Kumari to work on short-term improvements to
  "IETF Culture, Toxicity, Inclusion."
o Eric Vyncke, Lars Eggert, and Robert Wilton to work on improvements to 
  authoring and reviewing tools.
o Francesca Palombini to find designated experts for RFC 9039 [IANA 
  #1201198].

UPDATED:
o John Scudder, Martin Duke, and Robert Wilton to review the document
  shepherd templates and propose changes to include updated questions,
  cross-area checks, and an expanded section on the use of YANG models.

NEW:
o Murray Kucherawy to send the proposed updates to the I-D checklist out 
  for community review.
       
2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-curdle-ssh-kex-sha2-19  - IETF stream
    Key Exchange (KEX) Method Updates and Recommendations for Secure
    Shell (SSH) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Benjamin Kaduk

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lars Eggert.*

  o draft-ietf-netmod-nmda-diff-10  - IETF stream
    Comparison of NMDA datastores (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Robert Wilton

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Robert Wilson confirms that the announcement is ready
to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-core-yang-cbor-16  - IETF stream
    CBOR Encoding of Data Modeled with YANG (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Francesca Palombini

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk and Robert Wilton.*

  o draft-ietf-core-sid-16  - IETF stream
    YANG Schema Item iDentifier (YANG SID) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Francesca Palombini

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk, Zahed Sarker, Eric Vyncke, and Robert 
Wilton.*

  o draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-integrity-06  - IETF stream
    Integrity Protection for the Network Service Header (NSH) and
    Encryption of Sensitive Context Headers (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Martin Vigoureux

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw, Benjamin Kaduk, Murray Kucherawy, and 
Eric Vyncke.*

  o draft-ietf-shmoo-cancel-meeting-05  - IETF stream
    Considerations for Cancellation of IETF Meetings (Best Current
    Practice)
    Token: Lars Eggert

Martin Duke formally recused himself from the discussion. The document 
was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The Secretariat will 
send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement once Lars 
Eggert confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent.

2.1.2 Returning items
    
  o draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-14  - IETF stream
    Integrated Routing and Bridging in EVPN (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Martin Vigoureux

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Martin Vigoureux confirms that the announcement is
ready to be sent.

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items

  o draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-08  - IETF stream
    Recommendations on the Filtering of IPv6 Packets Containing IPv6
    Extension Headers at Transit Routers (Informational)
    Token: Warren Kumari

Eric Vyncke formally recused himself from the discussion. The document 
remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised 
by Roman Danyliw and Benjamin Kaduk.*

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  NONE

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4.3 For action
  NONE
  
4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval

  o Media Type Maintenance (mediaman)
    Area: ART (Murray Kucherawy)
    
The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending the 
addition of chairs and edits to the text of the charter to be provided 
by Murray Kucherawy. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.
      
4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1200145] Management Item: Acceptance of media type 
    registration from standards organization Gedcom (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. This management item has been 
postponed to the next IESG Teleconference (August 12, 2021).

6.2 [IANA #1201198] Designated experts for RFC 9039 (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. An action item to find designated 
experts for RFC 9039 was assigned to Francesca Palombini prior to the 
start of the teleconference.

6.3 [IANA #1203392] renewing early allocations for draft-ietf-idr-
    segment-routing-te-policy (IANA)

The management issue was discussed.

6.4 Forum for publishing draft-ietf-lwig-curve-representations (Benjamin 
    Kaduk)

The management issue was discussed.

6.5 Email address policy (Lars Eggert)

The management issue was discussed.

6.6 I-D Checklist Updates (Murray Kucherawy)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item: Murray Kucherawy to send the proposed updates to the I-D 
checklist out for community review.

6.7 draft-ietf-netmod-geo-location (Robert Wilton)

The management issue was discussed.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.