Minutes interim-2021-iesg-17 2021-08-12 14:00
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the August 12, 2021 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Martin Duke (F5 Networks Inc) / Transport Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area
Erik Kline (Google) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Facebook) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area

REGRETS
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Ben Campbell (Independent Consultant) / IAB Liaison
Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IETF Chair, General Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Ericsson) / Transport Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area

OBSERVERS
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Toerless Eckert
Adrian Farrel
David Millman
Lee-Berkeley Shaw
Greg Wood

1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the July 15, 2021 Teleconference were approved.
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the July 15, 2021 Teleconference were
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public
archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the July 15, 2021 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions
o draft-ietf-dtn-bpsec-default-sc-11 (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-payload-rtp-jpegxs-18 (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-bess-datacenter-gateway-13 (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-ace-oscore-profile-19 (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-ace-dtls-authorize-18 (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-ace-oauth-authz-43 (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
o draft-ietf-mboned-ieee802-mcast-problems-15  (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
o Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for RFC 9036 [IANA
#1199105].

IN PROGRESS:
o John Scudder, Martin Duke, and Robert Wilton to review the document
shepherd templates and propose changes to include updated questions, 
cross-area checks, and an expanded section on the use of YANG models.
o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft a note to wgchairs
asking them to always confirm author/contributor status.
o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft text to include in the
I-D submission tool warning about too many authors.
o Eric Vyncke and Francesca Palombini to draft text for
guidelines/best practices for directorate reviewers.
o The IESG to report on the RFC 8989 experiment after the 2021 NomCom
is seated (likely July 2021).
o Murray Kucherawy and Warren Kumari to update BCP 97 to provide
guidance about handling normative references to non-SDO documents.
o Robert Wilton, Alvaro Retana, and Warren Kumari to report back to
the IESG on the impact of COVID-19 to the IETF in October 2021.
o Lars Eggert to update BCP 45.
o Lars Eggert, John Scudder, Benjamin Kaduk, Mirja Kuehlewind, Murray
Kucherawy and Warren Kumari to work on short-term improvements to
"IETF Culture, Toxicity, Inclusion."
o Eric Vyncke, Lars Eggert, and Robert Wilton to work on improvements
to authoring and reviewing tools.
o Francesca Palombini to find designated experts for RFC 9039 [IANA
#1201198].
o Murray Kucherawy to send the proposed updates to the I-D checklist
out for community review.
o Francesca Palombini to find designated experts for RFC 8984 [IANA
#1205430].
o Francesca Palombini to find designated experts for RFC 9073 [IANA
#1206462].
o Francesca Palombini to find designated experts for RFC 9074 [IANA
#1206466].

DROPPED:
o Warren Kumari, Deborah Brungard, Stephen Farrell, and Jay Daley to
investigate ways to recruit, recognize, and retain volunteers in the IETF.

NEW:
NONE

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items

  o draft-ietf-6lo-plc-06  - IETF stream
    Transmission of IPv6 Packets over PLC Networks (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Erik Kline

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk, Roman Danyliw, and Eric Vyncke.*

  o draft-ietf-rtgwg-policy-model-30  - IETF stream
    A YANG Data Model for Routing Policy (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action
Announcement once Alvaro Retana confirms that the announcement is
ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-httpbis-cache-header-09  - IETF stream
    The Cache-Status HTTP Response Header Field (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Francesca Palombini

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be
completed by Francesca Palombini. The Secretariat will send a working
group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-6man-ipv6-alt-mark-08  - IETF stream
    IPv6 Application of the Alternate Marking Method (Proposed
Standard)
    Token: Erik Kline

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lars Eggert, Martin Duke, Roman Danyliw,
Warren Kumari, and Eric Vyncke. Martin Duke will check with the IPPM 
Working Group on the desired status of RFC8321 and 8889.*

2.1.2 Returning items

  o draft-ietf-dots-signal-call-home-14  - IETF stream
    Distributed Denial-of-Service Open Threat Signaling (DOTS) Signal
    Channel Call Home (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Benjamin Kaduk

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be
completed by Benjamin Kaduk. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
  NONE

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

  o conflict-review-smyshlyaev-tls12-gost-suites-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-smyshlyaev-tls12-gost-suites
      draft-smyshlyaev-tls12-gost-suites-13
      GOST Cipher Suites for Transport Layer Security (TLS) Protocol
    Version 1.2 (ISE: Informational)
    Token: Benjamin Kaduk

The ISE has withdrawn the conflict review request. The ISE will re-
submit the document for RFC 5742 review once edits to the text have
been made.

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4.3 For action

  o conflict-review-irtf-icnrg-nrs-requirements-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-icnrg-nrs-requirements
      draft-irtf-icnrg-nrs-requirements-06
      Design Considerations for Name Resolution Service in ICN (IRTF:
    Informational)
    Token: Lars Eggert

The document was assigned to Warren Kumari for RFC 5742 review.

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

  o MAC Address Device Identification for Network and Application
Services (madinas)
    Area: INT (Eric Vyncke)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review pending edits
to the text of the charter to be provided by Eric Vyncke. The Secretariat
will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to
new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda
for the next IESG Teleconference.

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review

  o Application-Layer Traffic Optimization (alto)
    Area: TSV (Martin Duke)

The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter
pending edits to the text of the charter to be provided by Martin
Duke. The  Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate
message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda
for the next IESG Teleconference August 26, 2021.

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1200145] Management Item: Acceptance of media type
registration from standards organization Gedcom (IANA)

The management issue was discussed.

6.2 [IANA #1203389] renewing early allocations for draft-ietf-cose-
x509 (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the
early allocations for draft-ietf-cose-x509.

6.3 [IANA #1205430] Designated experts for RFC 8984 (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. An action item to find designated
experts for RFC 8984 was assigned to Francesca Palombini prior to the
start of the teleconference.

6.4 [IANA #1206462] Designated experts for RFC 9073 (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. An action item to find designated
experts for RFC 9073 was assigned to Francesca Palombini prior to the
start of the teleconference.

6.5 [IANA #1206466] Designated experts for RFC 9074 (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. An action item to find designated
experts for RFC 9074 was assigned to Francesca Palombini prior to the
start of the teleconference.

6.6 Important Dates for IETF 112 (Secretariat)

The management issue was discussed.

6.7 [IANA #1203393] renewing early allocation for draft-ietf-6man-mtu-
option (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the
early allocations for draft-ietf-6man-mtu-option.

6.8 Designated experts for RFC 9036 [IANA #1199105] (Murray Kucherawy)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Henning
Schulzrinne <hgs@cs.columbia.edu> as the designated expert for RFC
9036.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.