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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the August 26, 2021 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Ben Campbell (Independent Consultant) / IAB Liaison
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Martin Duke (F5 Networks Inc) / Transport Area
Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IETF Chair, General Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area
Erik Kline (Google) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Facebook) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Karen Moore (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Alexa Morris (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Laura Nugent (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Ericsson) / Transport Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area

REGRETS
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Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area

OBSERVERS
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Prachi Jain

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the August 12, 2021 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the August 12, 2021 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.
   
1.2 Documents Approved since the August 12, 2021 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
 NONE
 
1.2.2 Document Actions
 NONE

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
o Murray Kucherawy to send the proposed updates to the I-D checklist out 
  for community review.
o Francesca Palombini to find designated experts for RFC 9039 [IANA 
  #1201198].
o Francesca Palombini to find designated experts for RFC 8984 [IANA 
  #1205430].
o Francesca Palombini to find designated experts for RFC 9073 [IANA 
  #1206462].
o Francesca Palombini to find designated experts for RFC 9074 [IANA 
  #1206466].
o Francesca Palombini to find designated experts for RFC 9100 [IANA 
  #1207182].
 
IN PROGRESS:
o John Scudder, Martin Duke, and Robert Wilton to review the document 
  shepherd templates and propose changes to include updated questions, 
  cross-area checks, and an expanded section on the use of YANG models.
o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft a note to wgchairs asking 
  them to always confirm author/contributor status.
o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft text to include in the I-D 
  submission tool warning about too many authors.
o Eric Vyncke and Francesca Palombini to draft text for guidelines/ best 
  practices for directorate reviewers.
o The IESG to report on the RFC 8989 experiment after the 2021 NomCom is 
  seated.
o Murray Kucherawy to update BCP 97 to provide guidance about handling 
  normative references to non-SDO documents.
o Robert Wilton, Alvaro Retana, and Warren Kumari to report back to the 
  IESG on the impact of COVID-19 to the IETF in October 2021.
o Lars Eggert to update BCP 45.
o Lars Eggert, John Scudder, Benjamin Kaduk, Mirja Kuehlewind, Murray 
  Kucherawy and Warren Kumari to work on short-term improvements to 
  "IETF Culture, Toxicity, Inclusion."
o Eric Vyncke, Lars Eggert, and Robert Wilton to work on improvements to 
  authoring and reviewing tools.

NEW:
o Lars Eggert to send email to Aaron Falk about HotRFC.

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-bier-te-arch-10  - IETF stream
    Tree Engineering for Bit Index Explicit Replication (BIER-TE)
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

  o draft-ietf-httpbis-bcp56bis-14  - IETF stream
    Building Protocols with HTTP (Best Current Practice)
    Token: Francesca Palombini

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Francesca Palombini confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent. 

  o draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7816bis-10  - IETF stream
    DNS Query Name Minimisation to Improve Privacy (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Warren Kumari

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Eric Vyncke.*

  o draft-ietf-mmusic-rfc8843bis-04  - IETF stream
    Negotiating Media Multiplexing Using the Session Description
    Protocol (SDP) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Murray Kucherawy confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-httpbis-proxy-status-06  - IETF stream
    The Proxy-Status HTTP Response Header Field (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Francesca Palombini

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
  NONE

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
    
  o draft-housley-ers-asn1-modules-02  - IETF stream
    New ASN.1 Modules for the Evidence Record Syntax (ERS)
    (Informational)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw on behalf of IANA.*

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

  o conflict-review-irtf-icnrg-icnlowpan-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-icnrg-icnlowpan
      draft-irtf-icnrg-icnlowpan-10
      ICN Adaptation to LoWPAN Networks (ICN LoWPAN) (IRTF:
    Experimental)
    Token: Erik Kline

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that
includes a conflict review response prepared by Erik Kline.

  o conflict-review-irtf-icnrg-nrs-requirements-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-icnrg-nrs-requirements
      draft-irtf-icnrg-nrs-requirements-06
      Design Considerations for Name Resolution Service in ICN (IRTF:
    Informational)
    Token: Warren Kumari

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that
includes a conflict review response prepared by Warren Kumari.

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

  o Oblivious HTTP (ohttp)
  Area: SEC (Francesca Palombini)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review pending edits to
the text of the charter and a possible change to the group's name to be
provided by Francesca Palombini. The Secretariat will send a WG Review 
announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The 
Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG 
Teleconference (September 09, 2021).

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval

  o Application-Layer Traffic Optimization (alto)
  Area: TSV (Martin Duke)
  
The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group pending a
final check to be completed by Martin Duke. The Secretariat will wait
for instructions from Martin Duke before sending a WG Action
announcement.
  
5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1201198] Designated experts for RFC 9039 (Francesca 
    Palombini)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Jari Arkko 
<jari.arkko@piuha.net> and Jaime Jiménez <jaime@iki.fi> as the 
designated experts for RFC 9039. 

6.2 [IANA #1206884] Renewal for early allocations for draft-ietf-idr-te-
    lsp-distribution (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early 
allocations for draft-ietf-idr-te-lsp-distribution. 

6.3 [IANA #1205430] Designated experts for RFC 8984 (Francesca 
    Palombini)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Robert Stepanek 
<rsto@fastmailteam.com>, Neil Jenkins <neilj@fastmailteam.com>, and 
Michael Douglass <mikeadouglass@gmail.com> as the designated experts for 
RFC 8984. 

6.4 [IANA #1206462] Designated experts for RFC 9073 (Francesca 
    Palombini)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Ken Murchison 
<murch@fastmail.com> and Michael Douglass <mikeadouglass@gmail.com> as 
the designated experts for RFC 9073. 

6.5 [IANA #1206466] Designated experts for RFC 9074 (Francesca 
    Palombini)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Ken Murchison 
<murch@fastmail.com> and Michael Douglass <mikeadouglass@gmail.com>
as the designated experts for RFC 9074. 

6.6 [IANA #1207182] Designated experts for RFC 9100 (Francesca 
    Palombini)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Ari Keranen 
<ari.keranen@ericsson.com> and Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> as the 
designated experts for RFC 9100. 

6.7 Executive Session (Lars Eggert)

The management issue was discussed in executive session. 

6.8 HotRFC for IETF 112 (Lars Eggert)

The management issue was discussed. 

Action item: Lars Eggert to send email to Aaron Falk about HotRFC.

6.9 PR approval process for the I-D guidelines (Lars Eggert)

The management issue was discussed. 

6.10 Bulk retroactive revision to the Media Types "Content-Disposition" 
     registry (Murray Kucherawy)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved making a bulk 
retroactive update to the "Content-Disposition" registry to populate the 
"Allowed values" column that was specified in RFC 2183 with the 
following:

inline: (none)
attachment: filename, creation-date, modification-date, read-date, size, 
  handling
form-data: name, filename
signal: handling
alert: handling
icon: handling
render: handling
recipient-list-history: handling
session: handling
aib: handling
early-session: (none)
recipient-list: (none)
notification: (none)
by-reference: handling
info-package: (none)
recording-session: (none)

6.11 IETF 112 Plenary experiment (Martin Duke)

The management issue was discussed. 

6.12 [IANA #1206885] Renewal for early allocations for draft-ietf-bess-
     evpn-igmp-mld-proxy (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early 
allocations for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.