Minutes interim-2021-iesg-19 2021-09-09 14:00
minutes-interim-2021-iesg-19-202109091400-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the September 9, 2021 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Ben Campbell (Independent Consultant) / IAB Liaison
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Martin Duke (F5 Networks Inc) / Transport Area
Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IETF Chair, General Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area
Erik Kline (Google) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Facebook) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Ericsson) / Transport Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area

REGRETS
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Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director


OBSERVERS
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Carlos J Bernardos
Toerless Eckert
Yiu Lee
Lee-Berkeley Shaw
Greg Wood


MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the August 26, 2021 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the August 26, 2021 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.
   
1.2 Documents Approved since the August 26, 2021 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7816bis-11  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-oauth-jwt-introspection-response-12  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-emu-eap-noob-06  (Proposed Standard)
 
1.2.2 Document Actions
  NONE

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:

  o Eric Vyncke and Francesca Palombini to draft text for guidelines/
    best practices for directorate reviewers.
  o The IESG to report on the RFC 8989 experiment after the 2021 NomCom 
    is seated.
  o Lars Eggert to update BCP 45.
  o Eric Vyncke, Lars Eggert, and Rob Wilton to work on improvements to
    authoring and reviewing tools.
  o Lars Eggert to send email to Aaron Falk about HotRFC.
  o Francesca Palombini to find designated experts for RFC 8006, 
    "Content Delivery Network Interconnection (CDNI) Metadata" [IANA 
    #1207888].

IN PROGRESS:

  o John Scudder, Martin Duke, and Robert Wilton to review the document
    shepherd templates and propose changes to include updated questions,
    cross-area checks, and an expanded section on the use of YANG 
    models.
  o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft a note to wgchairs 
    asking them to always confirm author/contributor status.
  o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft text to include in the 
    I-D submission tool warning about too many authors.
  o Murray Kucherawy to update BCP 97 to provide guidance about handling
    normative references to non-SDO documents.
  o Robert Wilton, Alvaro Retana, and Warren Kumari to report back to 
    the IESG on the impact of COVID-19 to the IETF in October 2021.
  o Lars Eggert, John Scudder, Ben Kaduk, Mirja Kuehlewind, Murray
    Kucherawy and Warren Kumari to work on short-term improvements to
    "IETF Culture, Toxicity, Inclusion."

NEW:

  o The IESG to review the feedback on whether to continue the RFC 8989 
    experiment 2022-2023 cycle by October 7, 2021.
  o Warren Kumari to rewrite the IESG blog post on "Handling IESG ballot 
    positions" as an IESG statement.

ON HOLD:

  o Lars Eggert to report back on the maintenance of 
    https://github.com/ietf/repo-files by October 28, 2021.

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
  NONE

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items   
  o draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-mpls-sr-label-type-10  - IETF stream
    Export of MPLS Segment Routing Label Type Information in IP Flow
    Information Export (IPFIX) (Informational)
    Token: Robert Wilton

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Robert Wilton. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement.

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  NONE

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  o DANE Authentication for Network Clients Everywhere (dance)
    Area: SEC (Roman Danyliw)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message 
to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda 
for the next IESG Teleconference (September 23, 2021).

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  o MAC Address Device Identification for Network and Application 
    Services (madinas)
    Area: INT (Eric Vyncke)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending edits to 
be provided by Eric Vyncke. The Secretariat will send a WG Action 
announcement. 

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  o Delay/Disruption Tolerant Networking (dtn)
    Area: TSV (Zaheduzzaman Sarker)

The charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve 
points raised by Alvaro Retana and Robert Wilton.* 

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1207888] Designated experts for RFC 8006, "Content Delivery 
    Network Interconnection (CDNI) Metadata" (Francesca Palombini)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Kevin J. Ma 
<kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com> and Nir Sopher <nirs@qwilt.com> (pending his 
acceptance of the role) as the designated experts for the following 
registries defined in RFC 8006:

  o CDNI Metadata Footprint Types,
    https://www.iana.org/assignments/cdni-parameters/cdni-
    parameters.xhtml#metadata-footprint-types

  o CDNI Metadata Protocol Types,
    https://www.iana.org/assignments/cdni-parameters/cdni-
    parameters.xhtml#metadata-protocol-types

6.2 Approval of http core documents status change (correcting intended 
    RFC status to Internet Standard) (Francesca Palombini)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved changing the 
Intended Status of draft-ietf-httpbis-semantics, draft-ietf-httpbis-
messaging, and draft-ietf-httpbis-cache-18 to Internet Standard pending 
confirmation on the IESG mailing list.

6.3 Maintenance of https://github.com/ietf/repo-files (Lars Eggert)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item: Lars Eggert to report back on the maintenance of
https://github.com/ietf/repo-files by October 28, 2021.

6.4 Adding a second IESG rep to the IETF-IANA team (Lars Eggert)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved adding Roman 
Danyliw and Warren Kumari to the IETF-IANA team.

6.5 Designated Experts for RFCs 8007 and 7975 (Francesca Palombini)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Kevin J. Ma 
<kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com> and Ben Niven-Jenkins <ben@niven-
jenkins.co.uk> as the designated experts for the following registries:

  o CDNI CI/T Error Codes
    https://www.iana.org/assignments/cdni-parameters/cdni-
    parameters.xhtml#error-codes
    defined in https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8007.html

  o CDNI RI Error response code
    https://www.iana.org/assignments/cdni-parameters/cdni-
    parameters.xhtml#ri-error-response
    defined in https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7975.html

6.6 Next steps on "handling IESG ballot positions" (Ben Kaduk)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item: Warren Kumari to rewrite the IESG blog post on "Handling 
IESG ballot positions" as an IESG statement.

6.7 Refactoring ietf-announce (Lars Eggert)

The management issue was discussed.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.