Minutes interim-2021-iesg-21 2021-09-23 14:00
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the September 23, 2021 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Ben Campbell (Independent Consultant) / IAB Liaison
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Martin Duke (F5 Networks Inc) / Transport Area
Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IETF Chair, General Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area
Erik Kline (Google) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Facebook) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Ericsson) / Transport Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area

REGRETS
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Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area

OBSERVERS
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Oscar Gonzalez de Dios
Wes Hardaker
Lee-Berkeley Shaw

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the September 9, 2021 Teleconference were approved. The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the September 9, 2021 Teleconference were
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.
   
1.2 Documents Approved since the September 9, 2021 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-integrity-09  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-babel-yang-model-13  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-httpbis-messaging-19  (Internet Standard)
  o draft-ietf-httpbis-semantics-19  (Internet Standard)
  o draft-ietf-6lo-blemesh-10  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-curdle-ssh-kex-sha2-20  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
  o draft-ietf-drip-reqs-18  (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:

  o Lars Eggert to report back on the maintenance of
    https://github.com/ietf/repo-files by October 28, 2021.
  o Lars Eggert to finalize text regarding the IETF Lists and send to
    community for review.
  o Warren Kumari to find designated experts for RFC 9108 (YANG Types
    for DNS Classes and Resource Record Types) [IANA #1208738].

REMOVED:

  o Lars Eggert, John Scudder, Ben Kaduk, Mirja Kuehlewind, Murray
    Kucherawy and Warren Kumari to work on short-term improvements to
    "IETF Culture, Toxicity, Inclusion."

IN PROGRESS:

  o John Scudder, Martin Duke, and Robert Wilton to review the document
    shepherd templates and propose changes to include updated questions,
    cross-area checks, and an expanded section on the use of YANG
    models.
  o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft a note to wgchairs
    asking them to always confirm author/contributor status.
  o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft text to include in the
    I-D submission tool warning about too many authors.
  o Murray Kucherawy to update BCP 97 to provide guidance about handling
    normative references to non-SDO documents.
  o Robert Wilton, Alvaro Retana, and Warren Kumari to report back to
    the IESG on the impact of COVID-19 to the IETF in October 2021.
  o The IESG to review the feedback on whether to continue the RFC 8989
    experiment 2022-2023 cycle by October 7, 2021.
  o Warren Kumari to rewrite the IESG blog post on "Handling IESG ballot
    positions" as an IESG statement.

NEW:

  o Eric Vyncke to work with the Tools Team to update the references to
    the BSD License in the Trust Legal Provisions in the various IETF
    Tools.
  o Greg Wood to update the references to the BSD License in the Trust
    Legal Provisions on the IETF website.

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
  o draft-ietf-tls-md5-sha1-deprecate-09  - IETF stream
    Deprecating MD5 and SHA-1 signature hashes in (D)TLS 1.2 (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-opsawg-vpn-common-11  - IETF stream
    A Layer 2/3 VPN Common YANG Model (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Robert Wilton
 
The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be
completed by Robert Wilton. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-opsawg-l3sm-l3nm-11  - IETF stream
    A Layer 3 VPN Network YANG Model (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Robert Wilton

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw, Martin Duke, Benjamin Kaduk, and
Zaheduzzaman Sarker.*

  o draft-ietf-tcpm-rfc793bis-25  - IETF stream
    Transmission Control Protocol (TCP) Specification (Internet
    Standard)
    Token: Martin Duke

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lars Eggert, Benjamin Kaduk, Warren Kumari, and Zaheduzzaman Sarker.*

  o draft-ietf-core-senml-data-ct-05  - IETF stream
    SenML Data Value Content-Format Indication (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Francesca Palombini

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk and Murray Kucherawy.*

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  o draft-ietf-trill-multilevel-single-nickname-15  - IETF stream
    Transparent Interconnection of Lots of Links (TRILL) Single Area
    Border RBridge Nickname for Multilevel (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Martin Vigoureux

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be
completed by Martin Vigoureux. The Secretariat will send an individual
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
  NONE

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  NONE

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval

  o Oblivious Applications using Relayed HTTP (oarh)
    Area: SEC (Francesca Palombini)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement pending edits to the text
of the charter, the addition of chairs, and a possible name change to be
provided by Francesca Palombini.

  o DANE Authentication for Network Clients Everywhere (dance)
    Area: SEC (Roman Danyliw)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review

  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval

  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1206926] Renewal for early allocations for draft-ietf-idr-
    segment-routing-te-policy (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early
allocations for draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy.

6.2 [IANA #1208738] Designated experts for RFC 9108 (YANG Types for DNS
    Classes and Resource Record Types) (Warren Kumari)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Petr Špaček
<pspacek@isc.org> and Ladislav Lhotka <ladislav.lhotka@nic.cz> as the
designated experts for YANG Types for DNS Classes and Resource Record
Types. The approval of the designated experts are for DNS CLASSes
defined in RFC 6895.

6.3 Downrefs for RFC793bis (Martin Duke)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved adding the
following downrefs to the downref registry upon the approval of draft-
ietf-tcpm-rfc793bis:

  o RFC 1191 (Draft Standard)
  o RFC 6633 (Proposed Standard)
  o RFC 6298 (Proposed Standard)
  o RFC 5681 (Draft Standard)
  o RFC 3168 (Proposed Standard)
  o RFC 2675 (Proposed Standard)
  o RFC 2474 (Proposed Standard)

6.4 Proposed Experiment for IETF 112: Moving the Plenary (Lars Eggert)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved an experiment to
move the IETF 112 plenary to Wednesday, November 3, 2021 at 13:30-15:00
UTC.

6.5 IETF Mailing List - important-news (Lars Eggert)

The management issue was discussed.

6.6 Trust Update to TLP (Lars Eggert)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item: Eric Vyncke to work with the Tools Team to update the
references to the BSD License in the Trust Legal Provisions in the
various IETF Tools.

Action item: Greg Wood to update the references to the BSD License in
the Trust Legal Provisions on the IETF website.

6.7 Executive Session

The IESG discussed several items in an executive session.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.