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Meeting Minutes Internet Engineering Steering Group (iesg) IETF
Date and time 2021-10-28 14:00
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minutes-interim-2021-iesg-24-202110281400-00
INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the October 28, 2021 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Ben Campbell (Independent Consultant) / IAB Liaison
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Martin Duke (F5 Networks Inc) / Transport Area 
Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IETF Chair, General Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area
Erik Kline (Google) / Internet Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Ericsson) / Transport Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area

REGRETS
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Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Murray Kucherawy (Facebook) / Applications and Real-Time Area

OBSERVERS
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Lee-Berkeley Shaw
Greg Wood

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the October 21, 2021 Teleconference remain under review.

The narrative minutes of the October 21, 2021 Teleconference  remain 
under review.

The BoF Coordination Call Minutes for IETF 112 were approved. 
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the October 21, 2021 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions
o draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13-21  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-cbor-network-addresses-13  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-core-senml-data-ct-07  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
 NONE

1.3 Review of Action Items
    
DONE:
o Eric Vyncke to follow up with the Tools Team about updating the Last 
  Call template to include a pointer to 
  https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/in-last-call.
 
IN PROGRESS:
   
o John Scudder, Martin Duke, and Robert Wilton to review the document 
  shepherd templates and propose changes to include updated questions, 
  cross-area checks, and an expanded section on the use of YANG models.
o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft a note to wgchairs asking 
  them to always confirm author/contributor status.
o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft text to include in the I-D
  submission tool warning about too many authors.
o Murray Kucherawy to update BCP 97 to provide guidance about handling 
  normative references to non-SDO documents.
o Warren Kumari to rewrite the IESG blog post on "Handling IESG ballot 
  positions" as an IESG statement.
o Roman Danyliw to find designated experts for RFC 8739 and RFC 9115 
  Automated Certificate Management Environment (ACME)) [IANA #1210257].
 
ON HOLD:

o Robert Wilton, Alvaro Retana, and Warren Kumari to report back to the 
  IESG on the impact of COVID-19 to the IETF in March 2022. 
 
NEW: 
 NONE
 
2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy-14  - IETF stream
    IGMP and MLD Proxy for EVPN (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Martin Vigoureux

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alvaro Retana, Benjamin Kaduk, Murray Kucherawy, and 
Eric Vyncke.*

  o draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-tcp-requirements-13  - IETF stream
    DNS Transport over TCP - Operational Requirements (Best Current
    Practice)
    Token: Warren Kumari

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk, Lars Eggert, and Roman Danyliw.*

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
  NONE

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

  o conflict-review-irtf-cfrg-hpke-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-cfrg-hpke
      draft-irtf-cfrg-hpke-12
      Hybrid Public Key Encryption (IRTF: Informational)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that
includes a conflict review response prepared by Roman Danyliw.

3.4.2 Returning items

  o conflict-review-smyshlyaev-tls12-gost-suites-01
    IETF conflict review for draft-smyshlyaev-tls12-gost-suites
      draft-smyshlyaev-tls12-gost-suites-17
      GOST Cipher Suites for Transport Layer Security (TLS) Protocol
    Version 1.2 (ISE: Informational)
    Token: Benjamin Kaduk

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response
prepared by Benjamin Kaduk.

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review

  o Network Time Protocol (ntp)
     Area: INT (Erik Kline)

The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter 
pending edits to the text of the charter to be provided by Erik Kline. 
The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate 
message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the 
agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (December 2, 2021).
    
4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 Impact of COVID-19 on the IETF (Robert Wilton, Alvaro Retana, and 
    Warren Kumari)

The management issue was discussed.  

Action item: Management item to be added back to agenda before IETF 113.

6.2 "Newcomer's Agenda" for IETF 112 (Martin Duke)

The management issue was discussed. 

6.3 Finalization of "important-news" (Lars Eggert)

The management issue was discussed.  

The IESG has approved creating an "important-news" mailing list.

6.4 IESG Representative to ISE Search Committee (Lars Eggert)

The management issue was discussed.  

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.