Minutes interim-2022-iesg-04 2022-02-03 15:00
minutes-interim-2022-iesg-04-202202031500-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the February 03, 2022 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Andrew Alston (Liquid Intelligent Technologies) / incoming Routing Area
Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Ben Campbell (Independent Consultant) / IAB Liaison
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Martin Duke (Google) / Transport Area 
Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IETF Chair, General Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area
Erik Kline (Google) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Facebook) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Ericsson) / Transport Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area
Paul Wouters (Aiven) / incoming Security Area

REGRETS
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Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison

OBSERVERS
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Heb
Timothy Carlin
Brian Monkman 
Al Morton
Kevin Nelson
Carsten Rossenhoevel
Lee-Berkeley Shaw
Greg Wood

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the January 20, 2022 Teleconference were approved. 
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes  January 20, 2022 Teleconference were approved. 
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the January 20, 2022 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions
o draft-ietf-regext-rfc7484bis-06  (Internet Standard)
o draft-ietf-httpbis-http2bis-07  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-bess-evpn-optimized-ir-12  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
 NONE

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
o Francesca Palombini to draft text to the community on archiving 
  conversations between RPC and authors.
o Eric Vyncke to create a tools team ticket to add more guidance for BoF 
  Requests in the datatracker.
o Francesca Palombini to find designated experts for RFC-ietf-httpbis-
  priority (Extensible Prioritization Scheme for HTTP) [IANA #1223879].

IN PROGRESS:
o John Scudder, Martin Duke, and Robert Wilton to review the document 
  shepherd templates and propose changes to include updated questions, 
  cross-area checks, and an expanded section on the use of YANG models.
o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft a note to wgchairs asking 
  them to always confirm author/contributor status.
o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft text to include in the I-D 
  submission tool warning about too many authors.
o Robert Wilton, Alvaro Retana, and Warren Kumari to report back to the 
  IESG on the impact of COVID-19 to the IETF in March 2022.
o Murray Kucherawy to look into updating the guidance in BCP 13 on when 
  to add organizations to the "Standards-related organizations that have 
  registered Media Types in the Standards Tree" list.
o The IESG to report back to the community on the early plenary 
  experiment.

NEW:
 NONE

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-22  - IETF stream
    Distributed Denial-of-Service Open Threat Signaling (DOTS)
    Telemetry (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Benjamin Kaduk

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Benjamin Kaduk. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-extension-06  - IETF stream
    Internet Group Management Protocol version 3 (IGMPv3) and Multicast
    Listener Discovery version 2 (MLDv2) Message Extension (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Alvaro Retana confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-pce-binding-label-sid-12  - IETF stream
    Carrying Binding Label/Segment Identifier in PCE-based Networks.
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: John Scudder

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk and Martin Vigoureux.*

  o draft-ietf-quic-datagram-08  - IETF stream
    An Unreliable Datagram Extension to QUIC (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Zaheduzzaman Sarker

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action
Announcement once Zaheduzzaman Sarker confirms that the announcement is
ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-sidrops-6486bis-09  - IETF stream
    Manifests for the Resource Public Key Infrastructure (RPKI)
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Warren Kumari

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.

  o draft-ietf-httpbis-h3-websockets-02  - IETF stream
    Bootstrapping WebSockets with HTTP/3 (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Francesca Palombini

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action
Announcement once Francesca Palombini confirms that the announcement is
ready to be sent.

2.1.2 Returning items
    
  o draft-ietf-i2nsf-capability-data-model-25  - IETF stream
    I2NSF Capability YANG Data Model (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk and Zaheduzzaman Sarker.*

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
    
  o draft-faltstrom-unicode12-06  - IETF stream
    IDNA2008 and Unicode 12.0.0 (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Murray Kucherawy
    
The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be
completed by Murray Kucherawy. The Secretariat will send an individual
submission Protocol Action Announcement. The Secretariat will add RFC
5894, RFC 5896, and RFC 6912 to downref registry.

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-rats-tpm-based-network-device-attest-11  - IETF stream
    TPM-based Network Device Remote Integrity Verification
    (Informational)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

  o draft-ietf-bmwg-ngfw-performance-13  - IETF stream
    Benchmarking Methodology for Network Security Device Performance
    (Informational)
    Token: Warren Kumari

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk, Lars Eggert, Murray Kucherawy, Roman
Danyliw, and Eric Vyncke.*

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

  o conflict-review-smyslov-esp-gost-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-smyslov-esp-gost
      draft-smyslov-esp-gost-12
      Using GOST ciphers in ESP and IKEv2 (ISE: Informational)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response
prepared by Roman Danyliw.

  o conflict-review-irtf-cfrg-spake2-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2
      draft-irtf-cfrg-spake2-25
      SPAKE2, a PAKE (IRTF: Informational)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

Benjamin Kaduk formally recused himself from the discussion. The IESG
has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The Secretariat
will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that includes a
conflict review response prepared by Roman Danyliw.

3.4.2 Returning items

  o conflict-review-crocker-email-deliveredto-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-crocker-email-deliveredto
      draft-crocker-email-deliveredto-09
      Delivered-To Email Header Field (ISE: Experimental)
    Token: Murray Kucherawy

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response
prepared by Murray Kucherawy.

3.4.3 For action
 NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

  o Privacy Preserving Measurement (ppm)
    Area: SEC (Roman Danyliw)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review pending edits to 
the text of the charter to be provided by Roman Danyliw. The Secretariat 
will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to new-
work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the 
next IESG Teleconference (February 17, 2022).

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review

  o Calendaring Extensions (calext)
    Area: ART (Francesca Palombini)

The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message 
to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda 
for the next IESG Teleconference (February 17, 2022).

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1222953] Management Item: Acceptance of media type 
    registration from standards organization AutomationML e.V. (IANA)

The management issue was discussed.  

6.2 [IANA #1223879] Designated experts for RFC-ietf-httpbis-priority 
    (Extensible Prioritization Scheme for HTTP) (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Lucas Pardue
<lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com> and Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com> as the
designated experts for RFC-ietf-httpbis-priority. 

6.3 Executive Session (Francesca Palombini)

The management issue was discussed in the Executive session.

6.4 MSR6 BOF Update (Alvaro Retana)

The management issue was discussed.  

6.5 Instruction To IANA About Media Types SDO Listing (Murray Kucherawy)

The management issue was discussed.  

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.