Minutes interim-2022-iesg-05 2022-02-17 15:00
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the February 17, 2022 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Andrew Alston (Liquid Intelligent Technologies) / incoming Routing Area
Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Ben Campbell (Independent Consultant) / IAB Liaison
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Martin Duke (Google) / Transport Area 
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area
Erik Kline (Google) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Facebook) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Colin Perkins (University of Glasgow) / IRTF Chair
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Ericsson) / Transport Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area

REGRETS
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Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IETF Chair, General Area
Paul Wouters (Aiven) / incoming Security Area

OBSERVERS
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Luc Andre Burdet
Bruno Decraene
Daniam Henriques
Robert Raszuk
Lee-Berkeley Shaw
Ketan Talauilkar
Greg Wood
Shuwan Zhuang

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the February 03, 2022 Teleconference were approved. 
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes  February 03, 2022 Teleconference were approved. 
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the February 03, 2022 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions
o draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc4960-bis-19  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
o draft-ietf-anima-asa-guidelines-07  (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
o John Scudder, Martin Duke, and Robert Wilton to review the document
 shepherd templates and propose changes to include updated questions,
 cross-area checks, and an expanded section on the use of YANG models.
o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft text to include in the 
 I-D submission tool warning about too many authors.
o The IESG to report back to the community on the early plenary 
 experiment.
 
IN PROGRESS:
o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft a note to wgchairs 
 asking them to always confirm author/contributor status.
o Robert Wilton, Alvaro Retana, and Warren Kumari to report back to 
 the IESG on the impact of COVID-19 to the IETF in March 2022.
o Murray Kucherawy to look into updating the guidance in BCP 13 on 
 when to add organizations to the "Standards-related organizations 
 that have registered Media Types in the Standards Tree" list.
       
NEW:
 NONE 
 
2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-sacm-coswid-20  - IETF stream
    Concise Software Identification Tags (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk and Robert Wilton.*

  o draft-ietf-i2nsf-nsf-facing-interface-dm-21  - IETF stream
    I2NSF Network Security Function-Facing Interface YANG Data Model
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Roman Danyliw
   
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Francesca Palombini and Eric Vyncke.*

  o draft-ietf-i2nsf-nsf-monitoring-data-model-15  - IETF stream
    I2NSF NSF Monitoring Interface YANG Data Model (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Roman Danyliw
    
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk, Francesca Palombini, Robert Wilton, and 
Eric Vyncke.*

  o draft-ietf-bess-srv6-services-11  - IETF stream
    SRv6 BGP based Overlay Services (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Martin Vigoureux

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alvaro Retana, Erik Kline, John Scudder, and Warren 
Kumari.*

  o draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy-17  - IETF stream
    Segment Routing Policy Architecture (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Martin Vigoureux
    IANA Review: IANA OK - Actions Needed

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alvaro Retana, Benjamin Kaduk, John Scudder, and Roman 
Danyliw.*

  o draft-ietf-babel-v4viav6-07  - IETF stream
    IPv4 routes with an IPv6 next hop in the Babel routing protocol
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Martin Vigoureux

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Martin Vigoureux confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-calext-ical-relations-09  - IETF stream
    Support for iCalendar Relationships (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Francesca Palombini

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

2.1.2 Returning items
    
  o draft-ietf-alto-cdni-request-routing-alto-22  - IETF stream
    Content Delivery Network Interconnection (CDNI) Request Routing:
    CDNI Footprint and Capabilities Advertisement using ALTO (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Martin Duke

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a 
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
    
  o draft-eggert-bcp45bis-07  - IETF stream
    IETF Discussion List Charter (Best Current Practice)
    Note: This document updates BCP45 to reflect how the ietf@ietf.org
    mailing list is currently being used/managed (e.g., covering that
    some discussions, like last-call, have moved to their own dedicated
    mailing lists).
    Token: Robert Wilton

Lars Eggert formally recused himself from the discussion. The document 
was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Robert 
Wilton. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Protocol 
Action Announcement.

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
  NONE

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

  o conflict-review-pauly-dprive-oblivious-doh-01
    IETF conflict review for draft-pauly-dprive-oblivious-doh
      draft-pauly-dprive-oblivious-doh-10
      Oblivious DNS Over HTTPS (ISE: Experimental)
    Token: Eric Vyncke

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response
prepared by Eric Vyncke.

  o conflict-review-irtf-icnrg-nrsarch-considerations-02
    IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-icnrg-nrsarch-considerations
      draft-irtf-icnrg-nrsarch-considerations-07
      Architectural Considerations of ICN using Name Resolution Service
    (IRTF: Informational)
    Token: Erik Kline

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that
includes a conflict review response prepared by Erik Kline.

  o conflict-review-ietf-regext-tmch-func-spec-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-ietf-regext-tmch-func-spec
      draft-ietf-regext-tmch-func-spec-12
      ICANN TMCH functional specifications (ISE: Informational)
    Token: Murray Kucherawy

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response
prepared by Murray Kucherawy.

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4.3 For action

  o conflict-review-liu-lsr-p2poverlan-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-liu-lsr-p2poverlan
      draft-liu-lsr-p2poverlan-07
      Interface Stack Table Definition and Example for Point-to-Point
    (P2P) Interface over LAN (ISE: Informational)
    Token: Lars Eggert

The document was assigned to Warren Kumari for RFC 5742 review.

  o conflict-review-richardson-mud-qrcode-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-richardson-mud-qrcode
      draft-richardson-mud-qrcode-05
      On loading MUD URLs from QR codes (ISE: Informational)
    Token: Lars Eggert

The document was assigned to Robert Wilton for RFC 5742 review.

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval

  o Privacy Preserving Measurement (ppm)
    Area: SEC (Roman Danyliw)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending the 
addition of chairs and edits to the text of the charter to be provided 
by Roman Danyliw. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval

  o Calendaring Extensions (calext)
    Area: ART (Francesca Palombini)

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group pending
edits to the text of the charter to be provided by Francesca Palombini.
The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

  o Stay Home Meet Only Online (shmoo)
    Area: GEN (Lars Eggert)

The charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1222953] Acceptance of media type registration from standards 
    organization AutomationML e.V. (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG asks IANA to process this 
media-type request, and to add this organization to the 'Standards-
related organizations that have registered Media Types in the Standards Tree.' 

6.2 [IANA #1224205] Approval of media type application/oblivious-dns-
    message (draft-pauly-dprive-oblivious-doh-10) (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved the registration 
of media type application/oblivious-dns-message.

6.3 [IANA #1224792] Acceptance of media type registration from standards 
    organization PDF Association (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG asks IANA to process this 
media-type request, and to add this organization to the 'Standards-
related organizations that have registered Media Types in the Standards Tree.' 

6.4 [IANA #1224793] Acceptance of media type registration from standards 
    organization ISO TC 171 SC 2 (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG asks IANA to process this 
media-type request, and to add this organization to the 'Standards-
related organizations that have registered Media Types in the Standards Tree.' 

6.5 Finalize the text on the AUTH48 message archive experiment 
    (Francesca Palombini)

The management issue was discussed.  

6.6 IETF 113 Agenda Conflict Resolution (Liz Flynn)

The management issue was discussed.  

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.