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Date and time 2022-04-21 14:00
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minutes-interim-2022-iesg-09-202204211400-00
INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the April 21, 2022 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Andrew Alston (Liquid Intelligent Technologies) /  Routing Area
Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IETF Chair, General Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Ericsson) / Transport Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area
Paul Wouters (Aiven) /  Security Area
Qin Wu (Huawei) / IAB Liaison

REGRETS
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Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Martin Duke (Google) / Transport Area 
Murray Kucherawy (Facebook) / Applications and Real-Time Area

OBSERVERS
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Greg Wood

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the April 07, 2022 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the April 07, 2022 Teleconference 
were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public 
archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the April 07, 2022 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions
o draft-ietf-core-yang-cbor-20  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-sidrops-6486bis-11  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-rosen-rfcefdp-update-2026-02  (Best Current Practice)
o draft-rsalz-2028bis-07  (Best Current Practice)

1.2.2 Document Actions
 NONE

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE: 
o Francesca Palombini to follow up on the public archive of AUTH48 
  conversations. 
o Murray Kucherawy to review the media type registration request from 
  standards organization CWL Project. 

IN PROGRESS:
o Robert Wilton, Alvaro Retana, and Warren Kumari to report back to the 
  IESG on the impact of COVID-19 to the IETF in July 2022.
o Murray Kucherawy to look into updating the guidance in BCP 13 on when 
  to add organizations to the "Standards-related organizations that have 
  registered Media Types in the Standards Tree" list.
o Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for RFC 9208, "IMAP QUOTA 
  Extension" [IANA #1229081]. 
o Roman Danyliw to find designated experts for RFC 8809 (WebAuthn)[IANA 
  #1229681]. 

NEW: 
o Lars Eggert and Francesca Palombini to draft an announcement about 
  the public archive of AUTH48 conversations. 

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-bier-bar-ipa-12  - IETF stream
    BIER Underlay Path Calculation Algorithm and Constraints (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Paul Wouters and Roman Danyliw.*

  o draft-ietf-sidrops-rpki-has-no-identity-07  - IETF stream
    The I in RPKI does not stand for Identity (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Warren Kumari

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a 
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-cbor-file-magic-11  - IETF stream
    On storing CBOR encoded items on stable storage (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Francesca Palombini

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw.*

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-lisp-vendor-lcaf-10  - IETF stream
    Vendor Specific LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) (Experimental)
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Alvaro Retana. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-raw-ldacs-10  - IETF stream
    L-band Digital Aeronautical Communications System (LDACS)
    (Informational)
    Token: John Scudder

The status change remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Alvaro Retana, Andrew Alston, Roman Danyliw, 
and Eric Vyncke.*

  o draft-ietf-quic-applicability-16  - IETF stream
    Applicability of the QUIC Transport Protocol (Informational)
    Token: Zaheduzzaman Sarker

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Zaheduzzaman Sarker. The Secretariat will send a working 
group submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-quic-manageability-16  - IETF stream
    Manageability of the QUIC Transport Protocol (Informational)
    Token: Zaheduzzaman Sarker

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action 
Announcement once Zaheduzzaman Sarker confirms that the announcement is
ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-v6ops-transition-comparison-03  - IETF stream
    Pros and Cons of IPv6 Transition Technologies for IPv4aaS
    (Informational)
    Token: Warren Kumari

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw and Eric Vyncke.*

  o draft-ietf-dots-multihoming-12  - IETF stream
    Multi-homing Deployment Considerations for
    Distributed-Denial-of-Service Open Threat Signaling (DOTS)
    (Informational)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Erik Kline.*

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

  o conflict-review-briscoe-docsis-q-protection-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-briscoe-docsis-q-protection
      draft-briscoe-docsis-q-protection-03
      The DOCSIS(r) Queue Protection Algorithm to Preserve Low Latency
    (ISE: Informational)
    Token: Martin Duke

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response
prepared by Martin Duke.

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 Follow Up on the Public Archive of AUTH48 Conversations (Francesca 
    Palombini)

The management issue was discussed.  

Action item: Lars Eggert and Francesca Palombini to draft an 
announcement about the public archive of AUTH48 conversations.

6.2 [IANA #1229134] Acceptance of media type registration from standards 
    organization CWL Project (IANA, Murray Kucherawy)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG asks IANA to process this 
media-type request, and to add this organization to the 'Standards-
related organizations that have registered Media Types in the Standards 
Tree.' 

6.3 IETF 114 Important Dates (Secretariat)

The management issue was discussed.  

6.4 [IANA #1229681] Designated experts for RFC 8809 (WebAuthn) (IANA)

An action item to find designated experts for RFC 8809 was assigned to 
Roman Danyliw prior to the start of the teleconference.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)
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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.