Minutes interim-2022-iesg-12 2022-06-02 14:00
minutes-interim-2022-iesg-12-202206021400-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the June 02, 2022 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Andrew Alston (Liquid Intelligent Technologies) /  Routing Area
Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Martin Duke (Google) / Transport Area 
Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IETF Chair, General Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Facebook) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Ericsson) / Transport Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Paul Wouters (Aiven) /  Security Area
Qin Wu (Huawei) / IAB Liaison

REGRETS
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Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area

OBSERVERS
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Mike Jones
Anthony Somerset
Ketan Talaulikar
Greg Wood
Kristina Yasuda


MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the May 05 and May 12, 2022 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the May 05 and May 12, 2022 Teleconference 
were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public 
archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the May 12, 2022 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions
o draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-https-10  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-rats-yang-tpm-charra-21  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-i2nsf-nsf-monitoring-data-model-20  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-cbor-file-magic-12  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-i2nsf-capability-data-model-32  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-i2nsf-nsf-facing-interface-dm-29  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
o draft-ietf-dots-multihoming-13  (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
o Security ADs to find designated experts for RFC 9116 (A File Format to 
  Aid in Security Vulnerability Disclosure) [IANA #1230049].
o Murray Kucherawy to look into updating the guidance in BCP 13 on when 
  to add organizations to the "Standards-related organizations that have 
  registered Media Types in the Standards Tree" list.
  
IN PROGRESS:    
o Robert Wilton, Alvaro Retana, and Warren Kumari to report back to the 
  IESG on the impact of COVID-19 to the IETF in July 2022.
o Lars Eggert to facilitate an update of the document shepherd writeup 
  form.
o Lars Eggert to ask the Tools Team to push the global whitelist out to 
  WG mailing lists again.
o Roman Danyliw to find designated experts for RFC 8809 (WebAuthn)[IANA 
  #1229681]. 
o Eric Vyncke to find designated experts for RFC 9250, "DNS over 
  Dedicated QUIC Connections" [IANA #1230687].

NEW:
o Murray Kucherawy to draft text for an IESG statement providing 
  guidance about patch documents.
o Lars Eggert to follow-up on the management of the IETF non-wg mailing 
  lists. 
o Lars Eggert to send notification for last call for the Proposed 
  Revision to the Tao of the IETF.
        
2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-app-specific-attr-13  - IETF stream
    Application-Specific Attributes Advertisement with BGP Link-State
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Alvaro Retana
    
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by John Scudder.*

  o draft-ietf-lisp-6834bis-12  - IETF stream
    Locator/ID Separation Protocol (LISP) Map-Versioning (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by John Scudder, Paul Wouters, and Roman Danyliw.*

  o draft-ietf-lamps-cmp-algorithms-15  - IETF stream
    Certificate Management Protocol (CMP) Algorithms (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Roman Danyliw. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-tls-subcerts-14  - IETF stream
    Delegated Credentials for (D)TLS (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Paul Wouters

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Paul Wouters. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-opsawg-l2nm-18  - IETF stream
    A YANG Network Data Model for Layer 2 VPNs (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Robert Wilton

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Robert Wilton. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-lamps-cmp-updates-20  - IETF stream
    Certificate Management Protocol (CMP) Updates (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Martin Duke and Paul Wouters.*

  o draft-ietf-oauth-jwk-thumbprint-uri-03  - IETF stream
    JWK Thumbprint URI (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Roman Danyliw. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-alto-cost-mode-05  - IETF stream
    A Cost Mode Registry for the Application-Layer Traffic Optimization
    (ALTO) Protocol (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Martin Duke

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Paul Wouters.*

  o draft-ietf-lamps-8410-ku-clarifications-01  - IETF stream
    Clarifications for Ed25519, Ed448, X25519, and X448 Algorithm
    Identifiers (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Roman Danyliw. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
  NONE

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
    
  o draft-faltstrom-base45-10  - IETF stream
    The Base45 Data Encoding (Informational)
    Token: Erik Kline

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The
Secretariat will send an individual submission Document Action 
Announcement once Erik Kline confirms that the announcement is ready to 
be sent.

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  NONE

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4.3 For action

  o conflict-review-irtf-nmrg-ibn-intent-classification-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-nmrg-ibn-intent-classification
      draft-irtf-nmrg-ibn-intent-classification-08
      Intent Classification (IRTF: Informational)
    Token: Lars Eggert

The document was assigned to Robert Wilton for RFC 5742 review.

  o conflict-review-irtf-nmrg-ibn-concepts-definitions-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-nmrg-ibn-concepts-definitions
      draft-irtf-nmrg-ibn-concepts-definitions-09
      Intent-Based Networking - Concepts and Definitions (IRTF:
    Informational)
    Token: Lars Eggert

The document was assigned to Robert Wilton for RFC 5742 review.

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

  o Source Address Validation in Intra-domain and Inter-domain Networks 
    (savnet)
    Area: RTG ( Alvaro Retana)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message 
to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda 
for the next IESG Teleconference (June 16, 2022).

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval

  o Remote ATtestation ProcedureS (rats)
    Area: SEC (Roman Danyliw)

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group. The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1230687] Designated experts for RFC 9250, "DNS over Dedicated 
    QUIC Connections" (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. 

An action item to find designated experts for RFC 9250 was assigned to 
Eric Vyncke prior to the start of the teleconference.

6.2 [IANA #1230049] RFC 9116 (A File Format to Aid in Security 
    Vulnerability Disclosure) (Paul Wouters)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Yakov Shafranovich 
<yakovsh@amazon.com> and Edwin Foudil <contact@edoverflow.com> as the 
designated experts for RFC 9116. 

6.3 Review Request for Possible Revision of the Tao of the IETF (Lars 
    Eggert)

The management issue was discussed. 

Action Item: Lars Eggert to send notification for last call for the 
Proposed Revision to the Tao of the IETF.

6.4 [IANA #1229522] renewing early allocations for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-
    algo (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early 
allocations for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.