Minutes interim-2022-iesg-14 2022-06-16 14:00
minutes-interim-2022-iesg-14-202206161400-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the June 16, 2022 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Andrew Alston (Liquid Intelligent Technologies) /  Routing Area
Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Martin Duke (Google) / Transport Area 
Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IETF Chair, General Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Facebook) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Colin Perkins (University of Glasgow) / IRTF Chair
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Ericsson) / Transport Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area
Qin Wu (Huawei) / IAB Liaison

REGRETS
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Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Paul Wouters (Aiven) /  Security Area

OBSERVERS
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Shuai Zhao
Greg Wood

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the June 02, 2022 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the June 02, 2022 Teleconference were approved. 
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the June 02, 2022 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions
o draft-ietf-bier-bar-ipa-13  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-alto-cost-mode-05  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-dnsop-nsec3-guidance-10  (Best Current Practice)
o draft-ietf-teas-gmpls-signaling-smp-12  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
NONE 

1.3 Review of Action Items
    
DONE:
o Eric Vyncke to find designated experts for RFC 9250, "DNS over 
  Dedicated QUIC Connections" [IANA #1230687].
o Francesca Palombini to find designated experts for RFC 9211 (The 
  Cache-Status HTTP Response Header Field) [IANA #1232214].  
o Lars Eggert to send notification for last call for the Proposed 
  Revision to the Tao of the IETF.
o Lars Eggert to check with the Tools Team about whether improvements to 
  mailing list descriptions should wait until after the upgrade to 
  Mailman 3. 
 
IN PROGRESS:
o Robert Wilton, Alvaro Retana, and Warren Kumari to report back to the 
  IESG on the impact of COVID-19 to the IETF in July 2022.  
o Lars Eggert to facilitate an update of the document shepherd writeup 
  form.
o Lars Eggert to ask the Tools Team to push the global whitelist out to 
  WG mailing lists again.
o Murray Kucherawy to draft text for an IESG statement providing 
  guidance about patch documents.
o Lars Eggert to follow-up on the management of the IETF non-wg mailing 
  lists. 
o Roman Danyliw to find designated experts for RFC 8809 (WebAuthn) [IANA 
  #1229681]. 
o Martin Duke to find designated experts for RFC 9260 (Stream Control 
  Transmission Protocol) [IANA #1232030].
o Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for RFC 9248
  (Interoperability Profile for Relay User Equipment) [IANA #1232225].
o Francesca Palombini to find designated experts for RFC 9209 (The 
  Proxy-Status HTTP Response Header Field) [IANA #1232222]. 

      
NEW:
o Lars Eggert to draft email about RFC8989 Path 1 for NomCom 
  eligibility.  
      
2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items

  o draft-ietf-avtcore-cryptex-06  - IETF stream
    Completely Encrypting RTP Header Extensions and Contributing
    Sources (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lars Eggert, Paul Wouters, and Roman Danyliw.*

  o draft-ietf-sidrops-8210bis-09  - IETF stream
    The Resource Public Key Infrastructure (RPKI) to Router Protocol,
    Version 2 (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Warren Kumari

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Andrew Alston, Robert Wilton, and Roman Danyliw.*

  o draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-vvc-16  - IETF stream
    RTP Payload Format for Versatile Video Coding (VVC) (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Francesca Palombini, Paul Wouters, and Zaheduzzaman 
Sarker.*

  o draft-ietf-httpbis-binary-message-05  - IETF stream
    Binary Representation of HTTP Messages (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Francesca Palombini

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Francesca Palombini confirms that the announcement
is ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-masque-connect-udp-14  - IETF stream
    Proxying UDP in HTTP (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Martin Duke

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Martin Duke confirms that the announcement is ready to 
be sent.

  o draft-ietf-masque-h3-datagram-10  - IETF stream
    HTTP Datagrams and the Capsule Protocol (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Martin Duke

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Martin Duke confirms that the announcement is ready to 
be sent.

  o draft-ietf-core-problem-details-06 - IETF stream
    Concise Problem Details For CoAP APIs (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Francesca Palombini

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Murray Kucherawy and Paul Wouters.*

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
    
  o draft-koster-rep-09  - IETF stream
    Robots Exclusion Protocol (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send an individual submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Murray Kucherawy confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent. The Secretariat will add RFC 1945 to the downref 
registry.

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
  NONE

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  NONE

3.4.2 Returning items

  o conflict-review-irtf-nmrg-ibn-concepts-definitions-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-nmrg-ibn-concepts-definitions
      draft-irtf-nmrg-ibn-concepts-definitions-09
      Intent-Based Networking - Concepts and Definitions (IRTF:
    Informational)
    Token: Robert Wilton

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that
includes a conflict review response prepared by Robert Wilton.

  o conflict-review-irtf-nmrg-ibn-intent-classification-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-nmrg-ibn-intent-classification
      draft-irtf-nmrg-ibn-intent-classification-08
      Intent Classification (IRTF: Informational)
    Token: Robert Wilton

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that
includes a conflict review response prepared by Robert Wilton.

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval

  o Source Address Validation in Intra-domain and Inter-domain Networks 
    (savnet)
    Area: RTG (Alvaro Retana)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending the 
addition of milestones and edits to the text of the charter to be 
provided by Alvaro Retana. The Secretariat will send a WG Action 
announcement.

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 Final Approval for BoFs at 114

The management issue was discussed.  

6.2 [IANA #1232030] Designated experts for RFC 9260 (Stream Control 
    Transmission Protocol) (IANA)

An action item to find designated experts for RFC 9260 was assigned to 
Martin Duke prior to the start of the teleconference.

6.3 [IANA #1230687] Designated experts for RFC 9250, "DNS over Dedicated 
    QUIC Connections" (Eric Vyncke)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Sara Dickinson 
<sara@sinodun.com> and Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net> as the 
designated experts for RFC 9250. 

6.4 [IANA #1232225] Designated experts for RFC 9248 (Interoperability 
    Profile for Relay User Equipment) (IANA)

An action item to find designated experts for RFC 9248 was assigned to 
Murray Kucherawy prior to the start of the teleconference.

6.5 [IANA #1232222] Designated experts for RFC 9209 (The Proxy-Status 
    HTTP Response Header Field) (IANA)

An action item to find designated experts for RFC 9209 was assigned to 
Francesca Palombini prior to the start of the teleconference.

6.6 [IANA #1232214] Designated experts for RFC 9211 (The Cache-Status 
    HTTP Response Header Field) (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Mark Nottingham 
<mnot@mnot.net> as the designated expert for RFC 9211. 

6.7 [IANA #1232305] renewing early allocations for draft-ietf-lsr-
    dynamic-flooding (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early 
allocations for draft-ietf-lsr-dynamic-flooding.

6.8 IETF 114 Agenda Schedule (Liz Flynn)

The management issue was discussed.

6.9 NomCom Eligibility (Lars Eggert)

The management issue was discussed.

Action Item: Lars to draft email about RFC8989 Path 1 for NomCom 
eligibility.  

6.10 Expedited Processing for the LISP Standard Documents (Alvaro 
    Retana)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved requesting 
expedited processing on the LISP Standard documents.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.