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Date and time 2022-08-25 14:00
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minutes-interim-2022-iesg-18-202208251400-00
INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the August 25, 2022 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Andrew Alston (Liquid Intelligent Technologies) /  Routing Area
Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Martin Duke (Google) / Transport Area 
Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IETF Chair, General Area
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Facebook) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Ericsson) / Transport Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area
Paul Wouters (Aiven) /  Security Area
Qin Wu (Huawei) / IAB Liaison

REGRETS
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Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area

OBSERVERS
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Chris Box
Spencer Dawkins
Christian Hopps
Ana Minaburo
Ketan Talauikar
Laurent Toutain
Greg Wood

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the August 11, 2022 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the August 11, 2022 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the August 11, 2022 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions
o draft-ietf-add-svcb-dns-07  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-add-dnr-13  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-add-ddr-10  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-sidrops-rpkimaxlen-15  (Best Current Practice)

1.2.2 Document Actions
o draft-ietf-v6ops-transition-comparison-04  (Informational)
o draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons-12  (Informational) 

1.3 Review of Action Items
    
DONE:
o Paul Wouters to find designated experts for RFC 9258 (TLS KDF 
  Identifiers) [Iana #1234294].  
o Lars Eggert to follow-up on the management of the IETF non-wg mailing 
  lists. 
o Lars Eggert to send email to Roman Danyliw about drafting text to 
  working group chairs about side meetings.
  
IN PROGRESS:    
o Robert Wilton, Alvaro Retana, and Warren Kumari to report back to the 
  IESG on the impact of COVID-19 to the IETF in October 2022.
o Roman Danyliw to find designated experts for RFC 8809 (WebAuthn) [IANA 
  #1229681]. 

NEW:
o Murray Kucherawy and Martin Duke to contact the HTTPBIS chairs about 
  the request to register a HTTP/2 Frame Type registration [IANA 
  #1237502].
o The IESG to review the proposed revision to the Tao 
  (https://github.com/ietf/tao/blob/main/Tao.md).
 
2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo-12  - IETF stream
    Flexible Algorithm Advertisement using BGP Link-State (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a 
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-ipsecme-iptfs-17  - IETF stream
    IP-TFS: Aggregation and Fragmentation Mode for ESP and its Use for
    IP Traffic Flow Security (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lars Eggert, Erik Kline, Warren Kumari, Zahed Sarkar, 
and Eric Vyncke.*

  o draft-ietf-ipsecme-yang-iptfs-09  - IETF stream
    A YANG Data Model for IP Traffic Flow Security (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Robert Wilton and Eric Vyncke.*

  o draft-ietf-lamps-documentsigning-eku-05  - IETF stream
    General Purpose Extended Key Usage (EKU) for Document Signing X.509
    Certificates (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Roman Danyliw confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-lpwan-schc-yang-data-model-16  - IETF stream
    Data Model for Static Context Header Compression (SCHC) (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Éric Vyncke

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw, Robert Wilton, and Paul Wouters.*

  o draft-ietf-sidrops-rov-no-rr-06  - IETF stream
    RPKI-Based Policy Without Route Refresh (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Warren Kumari

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Andrew Alston.*

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-tsvwg-aqm-dualq-coupled-24  - IETF stream
    DualQ Coupled AQMs for Low Latency, Low Loss and Scalable
    Throughput (L4S) (Experimental)
    Token: Martin Duke

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action 
Announcement once Martin Duke confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-tsvwg-l4s-arch-19  - IETF stream
    Low Latency, Low Loss, Scalable Throughput (L4S) Internet Service:
    Architecture (Informational)
    Token: Martin Duke

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action 
Announcement once Martin Duke confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-l4s-id-28  - IETF stream
    Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN) Protocol for Very Low
    Queuing Delay (L4S) (Experimental)
    Token: Martin Duke

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw.*

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

  o conflict-review-irtf-pearg-numeric-ids-generation-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-pearg-numeric-ids-generation
      draft-irtf-pearg-numeric-ids-generation-11
      On the Generation of Transient Numeric Identifiers (IRTF:
    Informational)
    Token: Erik Kline

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that
includes a conflict review response prepared by Erik Kline.

  o conflict-review-irtf-pearg-numeric-ids-history-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-pearg-numeric-ids-history
      draft-irtf-pearg-numeric-ids-history-10
      Unfortunate History of Transient Numeric Identifiers (IRTF:
    Informational)
    Token: Erik Kline

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that
includes a conflict review response prepared by Erik Kline.

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval

  o NomCom Eligibility Update (elegy)
    Area: GEN (Lars Eggert)
  
The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The Secretariat 
will send a WG Action announcement
  
  o Revise Universally Unique Identifier Definitions (uuidrev)
    Area: ART (Murray Kucherawy)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The Secretariat 
will send a WG Action announcement. 

  o Media Over QUIC (moq)
    Area: ART (Murray Kucherawy)

The charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Zahed Sarker.*

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1234294] Designated experts for RFC 9258 "Importing External 
    Pre-Shared Keys (PSKs) for TLS 1.3" (Paul Wouters)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Rich Salz 
<rsalz@akamai.com> and Nick Sullivan <nick@cloudflare.com> as the 
designated experts for RFC 9258.

6.2 [IANA #1237502] Management Item: Request for Assignment (HTTP/2 
    Frame Type) (IANA)

The management issue was discussed.  

Action Item: Murray Kucherawy and Martin Duke to contact the HTTPBIS 
chairs about the request to register a HTTP/2 Frame Type registration 
[IANA  #1237502].

6.3 [IANA #1237984] renewing early allocations for draft-ietf-idr-
    segment-routing-te-policy (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early 
allocations for draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy.

6.4 [IANA #1237982] renewing early allocations for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-
    algo (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early 
allocations for draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo.

6.5 Executive Session: PR Action Discussion (Murray Kucherawy)

The management issue was discussed in an Executive session. 

6.6 Tao Revision (Lars Eggert)

The management issue was discussed.  

Action Item: The IESG to review the proposed revision to the Tao 
(https://github.com/ietf/tao/blob/main/Tao.md).

6.7 IESG Approval to Convene a Second Virtual Interim BOF for JWP (Roman 
    Danyliw)

The management issue was discussed.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.