Minutes interim-2022-iesg-25 2022-12-01 15:00
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the December 01, 2022 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Andrew Alston (Liquid Intelligent Technologies) /  Routing Area
Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Martin Duke (Google) / Transport Area
Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IETF Chair, General Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Facebook) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area
Paul Wouters (Aiven) /  Security Area
Qin Wu (Huawei) / IAB Liaison

REGRETS
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Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Ericsson) / Transport Area

OBSERVERS
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Shwetha Bhandari
Frank Brockners
Marek Hajduczenia
Mike Jones
Greg Wood

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the October 20 and October 27, 2022 Teleconferences were
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the October 20 and October 27, 2022 
Teleconferences were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in 
the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the October 27, 2022 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions
o draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-conf-state-10  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-quic-version-negotiation-13  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-sipcore-multiple-reasons-01  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
o draft-ietf-bmwg-ngfw-performance-15  (Informational)
o draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-30  (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items
    
DONE:
  NONE

IN PROGRESS:
o Paul Wouters to find designated experts for RFC 9200 (ACE-OAuth) [IANA
  #1239251].
o Paul Wouters to find designated experts for RFC 9203 (The (OSCORE) 
  Profile of the (ACE) Framework) [IANA #1239258].
o Paul Wouters to find designated experts for RFC 9237 (An Authorization 
  Information Format (AIF) for Authentication and Authorization for 
  Constrained Environments (ACE))[IANA #1239259]].
o Lars Eggert and Colin Perkins to find designated experts for RFC 8609 
  (Content-Centric Networking (CCNx) Messages in TLV Format) [IANA 
  #1239154].
o Roman Danyliw to find designated experts for RFC-ietf-lamps-cmp-
  updates-23 (Certificate Management Protocol (CMP) Updates) [IANA 
  #1241372].
o Francesca Palombini to find designated experts for RFC 9290 "Concise 
  Problem Details for Constrained Application Protocol (CoAP) 
  APIs" [IANA #1241511].
o Alvaro Retana to find designated experts for RFC 9303 "Locator/ID 
  Separation Protocol Security (LISP-SEC)" [IANA #1241556].
o Alvaro Retana to find designated experts for RFC 9305 "Locator/ID 
  Separation Protocol (LISP) Generic Protocol Extension" [IANA 
  #1241559].
  
ON HOLD: 
o Robert Wilton, Alvaro Retana, and Warren Kumari to report back to the 
  IESG on the impact of COVID-19 to the IETF in March 2023.

NEW:
 NONE

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-proxy-yang-08  - IETF stream
    A Yang Data Model for IGMP/MLD Proxy (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Robert Wilton.*

  o draft-ietf-lamps-lightweight-cmp-profile-16  - IETF stream
    Lightweight Certificate Management Protocol (CMP) Profile (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to get enough
ballot positions for approval.*

  o draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-ipv6-options-09  - IETF stream
    In-situ OAM IPv6 Options (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Martin Duke

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Andrew Alston, Roman Danyliw, Erik Kline, John Scudder, 
and Eric Vyncke.*

  o draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-multiple-ke-12  - IETF stream
    Multiple Key Exchanges in IKEv2 (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Roman Danyliw. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-stir-messaging-06  - IETF stream
    Messaging Use Cases and Extensions for STIR (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw, Eric Vyncke, and Robert Wilton.*

  o draft-ietf-lamps-rfc3709bis-08  - IETF stream
    Internet X.509 Public Key Infrastructure: Logotypes in X.509
    Certificates (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to get enough
ballot positions for approval.*

  o draft-ietf-stir-passport-rcd-23  - IETF stream
    PASSporT Extension for Rich Call Data (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw.*

  o draft-ietf-lamps-5g-nftypes-08  - IETF stream
    X.509 Certificate Extension for 5G Network Function Types (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Roman Danyliw. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-stir-identity-header-errors-handling-07  - IETF stream
    Identity Header Errors Handling for STIR (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Murray Kucherawy. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-idr-bfd-subcode-04  - IETF stream
    A BGP Cease Notification Subcode For Bidirectional Forwarding
    Detection (BFD) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Alvaro Retana. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-lsr-isis-flood-reflection-11  - IETF stream
    IS-IS Flood Reflection (Experimental)
    Token: John Scudder

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by John Scudder. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-raw-use-cases-08  - IETF stream
    RAW Use-Cases (Informational)
    Token: John Scudder

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw.*

  o draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-otn-b100g-applicability-15  - IETF stream
    Applicability of GMPLS for Beyond 100G Optical Transport Network
    (Informational)
    Token: John Scudder

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by John Scudder. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc5933-bis-13  - IETF stream
    Use of GOST 2012 Signature Algorithms in DNSKEY and RRSIG Resource
    Records for DNSSEC (Informational)
    Token: Warren Kumari

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw and Paul Wouters.*

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

  o conflict-review-smyslov-ike2-gost-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-smyslov-ike2-gost
      draft-smyslov-ike2-gost-12
      Using GOST Cryptographic Algorithms in the Internet Key Exchange
    Protocol Version 2 (IKEv2) (ISE: None)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response
prepared by Roman Danyliw.

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

  o Javascript Object Signing and Encryption (jose)
    Area: SEC (Roman Danyliw) 

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The Secretariat 
will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to new-
work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the 
next IESG Teleconference (December 15, 2022).

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 Designated Experts (Robert Wilton)

The management issue was discussed.  

The IESG approved replacing Bert Wijnen with Jürgen Schönwälder for 
IANA-ENTITY-MIB.

The IESG approved replacing  Stephen Stuart with Paolo Lucente 
<paolo@ntt.net> for BGP Monitoring Protocol Parameter. 

The IESG approved replacing Danny McPherson with Andrew Malis and 
Matthew Bocci for the PWE3 Parameters Registry.

6.2 Designated expert for IANA-MAU-MIB (Robert Wilton)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Marek Hajduczenia
<mxhajduczenia@gmail.com> as the designated expert for IANA-MAU-MIB, 
with "Operations and Management Area Director" listed as the backup 
expert.

6.3 [IANA #1241511] Designated experts for RFC 9290 "Concise Problem 
    Details for Constrained Application Protocol (CoAP) APIs" (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. An action item to find designated 
experts for RFC 9290 was assigned to Francesca Palombini prior to the 
start of the teleconference.

6.4 [IANA #1241556] Designated experts for RFC 9303 "Locator/ID 
    Separation Protocol Security (LISP-SEC)" (IANA)

The management issue was discussed.  An action item to find designated 
experts for RFC 9303 was assigned to Alvaro Retana prior to the start of 
the teleconference.

6.5 [IANA #1241559] Designated experts for RFC 9305 "Locator/ID 
    Separation Protocol (LISP) Generic Protocol Extension" (IANA)

The management issue was discussed.  An action item to find designated 
experts for RFC 9305 was assigned to Alvaro Retana prior to the start of 
the teleconference.

6.6 Executive Session:  IESG appointment to the IETF Trust (Lars Eggert)

The management issue was discussed in the Executive session.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.