Minutes interim-2022-iesg-26 2022-12-15 15:00
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the December 15, 2022 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Andrew Alston (Liquid Intelligent Technologies) /  Routing Area
Amanda Baber (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IETF Chair, General Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Facebook) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Ericsson) / Transport Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area
Paul Wouters (Aiven) /  Security Area
Qin Wu (Huawei) / IAB Liaison

REGRETS
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Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Martin Duke (Google) / Transport Area
Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison

OBSERVERS
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Brian Campbell
Mike Jones
Lee-Berkeley Shaw 
Greg Wood

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the December 01, 2022 Teleconference were
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the December 01, 2022 Teleconference were
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the December 01, 2022 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions
o draft-ietf-drip-rid-37  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
o draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6-deployment-10  (Informational)
o draft-ietf-raw-ldacs-14  (Informational)
1.3 Review of Action Items
    
DONE:
o Paul Wouters to find designated experts for RFC 9200 (ACE-OAuth) [IANA 
  #1239251].
o Paul Wouters to find designated experts for RFC 9203 (The (OSCORE) 
  Profile of the (ACE) Framework) [IANA #1239258].
o Paul Wouters to find designated experts for RFC 9237 (An Authorization 
  Information Format (AIF) for Authentication and Authorization for 
  Constrained Environments (ACE))[IANA #1239259]].
o Lars Eggert and Colin Perkins to find designated experts for RFC 8609
  (Content-Centric Networking (CCNx) Messages in TLV Format)[IANA 
  #1239154].
o Roman Danyliw to find designated experts for RFC-ietf-lamps-cmp-
  updates-23 (Certificate Management Protocol (CMP) Updates) [IANA 
  #1241372]. 
o Francesca Palombini to find designated experts for RFC 9290 "Concise 
  Problem Details for Constrained Application Protocol (CoAP) 
  APIs" [IANA #1241511].
   
IN PROGRESS:
o Alvaro Retana to find designated experts for RFC 9303 "Locator/ID 
  Separation Protocol Security (LISP-SEC)" [IANA #1241556].
o Alvaro Retana to find designated experts for RFC 9305 "Locator/ID 
  Separation Protocol (LISP) Generic Protocol Extension" [IANA 
  #1241559].
    
ON HOLD:
o Robert Wilton, Alvaro Retana, and Warren Kumari to report back to the 
  IESG on the impact of COVID-19 to the IETF in March 2023.

NEW:
 NONE

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-idr-bgpls-srv6-ext-12  - IETF stream
    BGP Link State Extensions for SRv6 (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by John Scudder.*

  o draft-ietf-idr-rfc7752bis-14  - IETF stream
    Distribution of Link-State and Traffic Engineering Information
    Using BGP (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by John Scudder.*

  o draft-ietf-bfd-unsolicited-11  - IETF stream
    Unsolicited BFD for Sessionless Applications (Proposed Standard)
    Token: John Scudder

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw, Lars Eggert, Alvaro Retana, Zaheduzzaman 
Sarker, and Robert Wilton.*

  o draft-ietf-oauth-rar-21  - IETF stream
    OAuth 2.0 Rich Authorization Requests (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Roman Danyliw. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.


  o draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev1-algo-to-historic-08  - IETF stream
    Deprecation of IKEv1 and obsoleted algorithms (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

Paul Wouters has formally recused himself from the discussion. The 
document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Roman Danyliw confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-netconf-https-notif-13  - IETF stream
    An HTTPS-based Transport for YANG Notifications (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Robert Wilton
  
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw, Lars Eggert, Murray Kucherawy, and Eric 
Vyncke.*  

  o draft-ietf-opsawg-service-assurance-yang-10  - IETF stream
    YANG Modules for Service Assurance (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Robert Wilton

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Eric Vyncke.*

  o draft-ietf-jmap-blob-17  - IETF stream
    JMAP Blob management extension (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw.*

  o draft-ietf-jmap-quotas-10  - IETF stream
    JMAP for Quotas (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Paul Wouters.*

  o draft-ietf-extra-imap-partial-03  - IETF stream
    IMAP Paged SEARCH & FETCH Extension (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Murray Kucherawy. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

2.1.2 Returning items
 NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
    
  o status-change-ikev1-to-historic-00  - IETF stream
    Moving IKEv1, ISAKMP and IPsec DOI to Historic (None)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

Paul Wouters has formally recused himself from this discussion. The IESG 
agreed to change the status of RFC2407, RFC2408, and RFC2409 from 
Proposed Standard to Historic. The Secretariat will send a Protocol 
Action Announcement pending a final check to be completed by Roman 
Danyliw. This document should progress at the same time as draft-ietf-
ipsecme-ikev1-algo-to-historic.

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-6lo-use-cases-14  - IETF stream
    IPv6 over Constrained Node Networks (6lo) Applicability & Use cases
    (Informational)
    Token: Erik Kline

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw.*

  o draft-ietf-opsawg-service-assurance-architecture-12  - IETF stream
    Service Assurance for Intent-based Networking Architecture
    (Informational)
    Token: Robert Wilton

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw.*

  o draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-deployment-02  - IETF stream
    In-situ OAM Deployment (Informational)
    Token: Martin Duke

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Erik Kline and Zaheduzzaman Sarker.*

  o draft-ietf-shmoo-online-meeting-05  - IETF stream
    Guidelines for the Organization of Fully Online Meetings
    (Informational)
    Token: Lars Eggert

Martin Duke has formally recused himself from the discussion. The 
document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed 
by Lars Eggert. The Secretariat will send a working group submission 
Document Action Announcement.

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
    
  o draft-pti-pen-registration-09  - IETF stream
    Registration Procedures for Private Enterprise Numbers (PENs)
    (Informational)
    Token: Robert Wilton

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The
Secretariat will send an individual submission Document Action
Announcement once Robert Wilton confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
    
  o status-change-int-tlds-to-historic-03  - IETF stream
    Moving TPC.INT and NSAP.INT infrastructure domains to historic 
    (None)
    Token: Warren Kumari

The IESG agreed to change the status of RFC 1528 from Experimental to 
Historic and RFC 1706 from Informational to Historic. The Secretariat 
will send a Document Action Announcement pending a final check to be 
completed by Warren Kumari. This document should progress at the same 
time as draft-davies-int-historic.

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  NONE

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

  o More Instant Messaging Interoperability (mimi)
    Area: ART (Murray Kucherawy)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review pending edits to
the text of the charter to be provided by Murray Kucherawy. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message 
to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda
for the next IESG Teleconference (January 05, 2023). 

4.1.2 Proposed for approval

  o Javascript Object Signing and Encryption (jose)
    Area: SEC (Roman Danyliw)
  
The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending the 
addition of chairs and milestones to be provided by Roman Danyliw. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1239251], [IANA #1239258], and [IANA #1239259] Proposed 
    Designated Experts for the ACE/OSCORE Registries (Paul Wouters)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Göran Selander 
(goran.selander@ericsson.com) and Cigdem Sengul 
(cigdem.sengul@gmail.com) as the designated experts for the following 
registries:

 • RFC 9200 (ACE-OAuth) [IANA #1239251]
 • RFC 9203 (The (OSCORE) Profile of the (ACE) Framework) [IANA
   #1239258]
 • RFC 9237 (An Authorization Information Format (AIF) for
   Authentication and Authorization for Constrained Environments (ACE))
   [IANA #1239259]

6.2 [IANA #1241511] Designated experts for RFC 9290 "Concise Problem 
    Details for Constrained Application Protocol (CoAP) APIs" (Francesca 
    Palombini)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Thomas Fossati
<thomas.fossati@arm.com> and Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> as the
designated experts for RFC 9290.

6.3 [IANA #1240988] renewing early allocation for draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-
    evpn-sr-p2mp (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early 
allocations for draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-evpn-sr-p2mp.

6.4 Designated experts for RFC 8609 (Content-Centric Networking (CCNx) 
    Messages in TLV Format) [IANA #1239154] (Lars Eggert)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Dave Oran 
<daveoran@orandom.net> and Hitoshi Asaeda <asaeda@nict.go.jp> as the 
designated experts for RFC 8609.

6.5 Designated experts for RFC-ietf-lamps-cmp-updates-23 (Certificate 
    Management Protocol (CMP) Updates) [IANA #1241372] (Roman Danyliw)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Hendrik Brockhaus 
<hendrik.brockhaus@siemens.com>, David von Oheimb 
<david.von.oheimb@siemens.com>, and John Gray <John.Gray@entrust.com> as 
the designated experts for RFC-ietf-lamps-cmp-updates-23.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.