CELLAR -- DRAFT AGENDA for 2023-06-27 Virtual Interim Meeting

| Date | Time | Local Times |
| :-: :-: :-
| 2023-06-27 21:00 Amsterdam | Time Converter | |
| Note | Meeting time is anchored to Amsterdam | |

Administrivia

INFO:

https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-interim-2023-cellar-06-cellar
https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/chair-notes/tree/master/interim-2023-06
**Note that we're now pointing to the Github repo for chair notes here**

MEETING INFO and WEB CONFERENCE:

info:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2023-cellar-06/session/cellar

https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/interim/?short=d6f664b3-63f5-4863-9079-8edf61e9b60b

note that chat is now Zulip:
https://zulip.ietf.org/login/#narrow/stream/cellar
but is accessible via meetecho interface.

Shared HedgeDoc for notetaking

Now using the Datatracker assigned notepad at:
https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-interim-2023-cellar-06-cellar

• Note that if you log in to the IETF datatracker, you'll be able to
  edit/clarify/correct these notes, add your name to attendee lists,
  etc.

• Please ask Michael or Spencer if you have questions.

2023 virtual interim meeting dates

• Please note our 2023 dates listed at
  https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/cellar/meetings/

Agenda Items

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Roll call

Attendees

• Spencer Dawkins
• Martijn van Beurden
• Steve Lhomme
• Jérôme Martinez
• ALI Shamin

Regrets

• Michael Richardson

The Working Group extends congratulations to Michael for his son's
graduation!

Accept draft minutes from previous meeting

• Draft minutes for the previous meeting are available here
• Martijn and Steve have reviewed, no objections, so meeting minutes
  are approved.

WG status update

| Draft | State | Date Posted | Plans |
| :- :- :- :-
| draft-ietf-cellar-chapter-codecs-02 | Expired | 2022-12-04 | |
| draft-ietf-cellar-codec-10 | Expired | 2022-12-04 | |
| draft-ietf-cellar-control-02 | Expired | 2022-12-04 | |
| draft-ietf-cellar-ffv1-v4-21 | ID Exists | 2022-12-05 | |
| draft-ietf-cellar-flac-08 | AD Evaluation | 2023-04-03 | Spencer has pinged Murray about this |
| draft-ietf-cellar-matroska-17 | IESG Evaluation::AD Followup | 2023-04-01 | two Discuss ballots remain |
| draft-ietf-cellar-tags-10 | Expired | 2022-12-04 | |

Milestone review:

• Can the authors post updated versions of our expired working group
  drafts? Steve will submit updates
• For Matroska, we need to resolve the remaining Discuss ballots, and
  address comments we've received
• For FLAC, we are awaiting our AD's evaluation write-up for this
  draft

Matroska issues - Discussion of IESG Ballot positions and comments on the call.

• John Scudder Discuss position - Steve thinks he has addressed all of
  John's Discuss points and comments
• Roman Danyliw Discuss position - Steve thinks he has addressed all
  of Roman's Discuss points and comments
• Other remaining AD comments received - Steve thinks he has addressed
  all of these as well
• Michael has sent a followup email asking the ADs to review Discuss
  positions against -17
  • Spencer will follow up with ADs, on Michael's June 4 email

Review of RFC8794 GitHub structure

• At our previous meeting, Steve reported that he has worked through
  the GitHub repo for our previously published RFC 8794, with the RFC
  8794 with errata applied at
  https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification/tree/rfc8794
  with a release ZIP file at
  https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification/releases/tag/rfc8794-errata-9
• At our previous meeting, Spencer asked the working group
  participants to look at this GitHub structure and make sure we think
  it will work for us
• Does anyone see any problems with this structure? Martijn thinks it
  looks wonderful
• The GitHub repo has lots of stale branches - the structure would be
  even more wonderful if they were removed
• We could fork the repo, so we have any older branches that we might
  need, and then delete them from the main repo
• Are we ready to do the same thing with RFC 9043? We think our
  approach is good for other RFCs, but RFC 9043 has no errata at this
  time

FLAC issues - Discussion on the call

• No update required until we get the AD Evaluation comments back from
  Murray
• Private email from Murray - "expecting to finish this coming Friday
  (but ping me to keep me honest)"
• Murray requested an early ART ART review, and this is one month
  overdue.
• Spencer will follow up with Cullen Jennings, the ART ART reviewer

FFV1 v4 issues - Discussion on the call

• No updates, check back in August

AOB?

• None noted
• Next meeting is ** 2023-08-22**