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Meeting Minutes Internet Architecture Board (iab) IETF
Date and time 2023-02-15 15:00
Title Minutes interim-2023-iab-05: Wed 15:00
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minutes-interim-2023-iab-05-202302151500-00
Minutes of the 2023-02-15 IAB Business Meeting

1. Administrivia

1.1. Attendance 

Present:

  Jari Arkko
  Dhruv Dhody (Incoming IAB)
  Liz Flynn (IETF Secretariat)
  Wes Hardaker 
  Mallory Knodel 
  Suresh Krishnan (Incoming IAB)
  Mirja Kühlewind (IAB Chair)
  Zhenbin Li 
  Cindy Morgan (IAB Executive Administrative Manager)
  Karen O'Donoghue (ISOC Liaison)
  Tommy Pauly 
  Colin Perkins (IRTF Chair)
  Alvaro Retana (Incoming IAB)
  David Schinazi
  Christopher Wood (Incoming IAB)
  Greg Wood (IETF Director of Communications and Operations)
  Qin Wu 
  Jiankang Yao 

Regrets:

  Deborah Brungard 
  Lars Eggert (IETF Chair)
  Cullen Jennings
  Warren Kumari (IESG Liaison)
  Russ White 


Observers:

  Mark McFadden


1.2. Agenda bash and announcements 

  An item to discuss the IAB chair selection process was added to 
  the agenda. Incoming IAB members were welcomed.


1.3. Meeting Minutes 

The following meeting minutes were approved:

  • 2023-02-01 business meeting - (draft submitted 2023-02-01) 

The following meeting minutes remain under review:

  • 2023-02-08 business meeting - (draft submitted 2023-02-08) 



1.4. Action Item Review 

Done:

  • 2023-01-25: Cullen Jennings to set up a technical discussion 
    on end-to-end encryption and user identity management. 
    * Scheduled for 2023-03-01

On Hold: 

  • 2021-11-17: Mirja Kühlewind and Cindy Morgan to put together 
    some options for the IAB Website revamp for the IAB to review. 
    (Work progressing in the background)
 
In Progress:

  • 2022-07-24: Mallory Knodel and Mirja Kühlewind to draft a 
    document outlining the architectural principles that the IAB       
    thinks are important and need to be understood when 
    considering Internet governance. 	

  • 2022-11-06: Jari Arkko to update draft-arkko-iab-data-
    minimization-principle based on the IAB discussion at IETF 
    115. 

  • 2022-12-07: Cindy Morgan to send a message to arch-d list 
    about possible adoption of draft-arkko-iab-data-minimization-
    principle once Jari Arkko updates the document and confirms 
    that the message is ready to go.

  • 2022-11-23: Liaison Coordinators to add information about 
    potential candidates to reach out to for future IAB-appointed 
    positions to the private IAB wiki.

  • 2023-01-25: Mallory Knodel and Jari Arkko to follow up with 
    Mark Nottingham about the IAB's discussion of draft-
    nottingham-avoiding-internet-centralization.

  • 2023-02-08: Colin Perkins to see if there is an RG available 
    for review during IETF 116 and try to schedule GAIA either for 
    a conference call or during IETF 117.

  Colin Perkins said that GAIA will be scheduled for IETF 117 and 
  he is still looking for an RG to review at IETF 116.

  • 2023-02-08: Mallory Knodel to draft text on a response to the 
    Call for input from the UN Office of the High Commissioner for 
    Human Rights.

  • 2023-02-08: Mirja Kühlewind to draft a response to people who 
    provided feedback on draft-iab-protocol-maintenance.

  • 2023-02-08: Mirja Kühlewind to follow up on the Liaison 
    Statements to ITU-T SG13 on Update on Quantum Networking and  
    the new work item Y.SAN "Requirements and architecture of 
    service aware network."

New:

  • 2023-02-15: Cindy Morgan to send email to outgoing IAB Members 
    to find a volunteer to act as chair for the IAB Chair 
    Selection Committee.

  • 2023-02-15: Liaison Coordinators to follow up with the 
    candidates for the 802.1 Liaison Manager position. (Cindy 
    Morgan to send an announcement.)

  • 2023-02-15: Liaison Coordinators to follow up with the 
    candidates for the 3GPP Liaison Manager position. (Cindy 
    Morgan to send an announcement.)

1.5. IAB Document Status Update 

  Datatracker: https://datatracker.ietf.org/stream/iab/draft-arkko-iab-data-minimization-principle-03
      I-D Exists, IAB stream 
      IAB Shepherd: Mirja Kühlewind
	
    • draft-iab-path-signals-collaboration-03
      Sent to the RFC Editor: Informational 
      IAB Shepherd: N/A

    • draft-iab-privacy-partitioning-00
      Active IAB Document
      IAB Shepherd: David Schinazi

    • draft-iab-protocol-maintenance-12
      Sent to the RFC Editor: Informational 
      IAB Shepherd: Tommy Pauly	

    • draft-iab-ws-environmental-impacts-report-00 
      Active IAB Document
      IAB Shepherd: Wes Hardaker

    • A Vision Statement for the Internet (Mallory, Mirja)

  Wes Hardaker reported that an initial draft of the M-TEN 
  Workshop report should be posted before the IETF 116 I-D 
  submission deadline.


1.6. WG Chartering in Progress (Initial Charters Only) 

  Datatracker: https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/chartering/	

    • Time Variant Routing (TVR)
      External Review (Initial Chartering)
      IESG Telechat: 2023-02-16
      IAB Reviewer: Russ White

  Jari Arkko and Alvaro Retana discussed a detail of how 
  scheduling is scoped in the charter. Jari Arkko will send his 
  comments to the list. 


    • Computing-Aware Networking (CAN)	
      Internal Review (Initial Chartering) 
      IESG Telechat: 2023-02-16
      IAB Reviewer: Zhenbin Li



2. IAB Response to the Call for input from the UN Office of the 
   High Commissioner for Human Rights 


  The deadline to provide input is Friday, 2023-03-03. Mallory 
  Knodel has started a document to collect ideas and response 
  points. Jari Arkko suggested that the response should include 
  more RFC text than new writing. Mallory Knodel asked other IAB 
  members to make notes in the document and she will give a status 
  update at the next meeting.



3. Executive Session: IEEE 802.1 Liaison Manager Appointment


  An IEEE 802.1 liaison manager has been chosen and will be 
  announced publicly once they have accepted.


4. Executive Session: 3GPP Liaison Manager Appointment

  A 3GPP liaison manager has been chosen and will be announced 
  publicly once they have accepted.


5. Next IAB Meeting

  The next IAB meeting will be on 2023-02-22 at 0700 PST.


6. Executive Session: Process Discussion 

  The IAB discussed a process issue in an executive session.