Minutes interim-2023-iab-14: Wed 14:00
minutes-interim-2023-iab-14-202304191400-00

Minutes of the 2023-04-19 IAB Business Meeting 


1. Administrivia


1.1. Attendance 

Present:

  Roman Danyliw (IESG Liaison)
  Dhruv Dhody 
  Lars Eggert (IETF Chair)
  Liz Flynn (IETF Secretariat)
  Wes Hardaker 
  Cullen Jennings
  Mallory Knodel 
  Mirja Kühlewind (IAB Chair)
  Suresh Krishnan 
  Cindy Morgan (IAB Executive Administrative Manager)
  Karen O'Donoghue (ISOC Liaison)
  Tommy Pauly 
  Colin Perkins (IRTF Chair)
  Alvaro Retana 
  Greg Wood (IETF Director of Communications and Operations)
  Qin Wu 
  Jiankang Yao 


Regrets:

  David Schinazi
  Christopher Wood 


Guests:

  Warren Kumari
  Éric Vyncke
  Rob Wilton




1.2. Agenda bash and announcements 


Items on the IETF presentation at RIPE 86 and the Metaverse Standards 
Forum were added to the agenda. Mirja Kühlewind reminded the IAB to 
fill out a survey ahead of the IAB/IESG joint retreat and fill out 
arrival information in the wiki.




1.3. Meeting Minutes 


The following meeting minutes were approved: 


  • 2023-03-26 business meeting - Sunday IETF 116 - (draft 
    submitted 2023-04-06) 


  • 2023-03-28 business meeting - Tuesday IETF 116 - (draft 
    submitted 2023-04-10)


  • 2023-03-30 business meeting - Thursday IETF 116 - (draft 
    submitted 2023-04-10)


The following meeting minutes remain under review: 


  • 2023-04-12 business meeting - (draft submitted 2023-04-12) 



1.4. Action Item Review 


Done:


  • 2022-11-23: Liaison Coordinators to add information about 
    potential candidates to reach out to for future IAB-appointed 
    positions to the private IAB wiki.


  • 2023-04-12: Cindy Morgan to send a call for nominations for 
    the IETF delegate to the ICANN NomCom.


  • 2023-04-12: Mirja Kühlewind to check with Ted Hardie and 
    Alissa Cooper about the history behind the IAB not appointing 
    a liaison to the IANA Naming Function Review (IFR).


  • 2023-04-12: Lars Eggert to start a draft document with 
    feedback to ICANN about the qualifications, characteristics, 
    and qualities needed in the next ICANN President and CEO.


  • 2023-02-08: Mirja Kühlewind to follow up on the Liaison 
    Statements to ITU-T SG13 on Update on Quantum Networking and  
    the new work item Y.SAN "Requirements and architecture of 
    service aware network."


On Hold: 


  • 2021-11-17: Mirja Kühlewind and Cindy Morgan to put together 
    some options for the IAB Website revamp for the IAB to review. 
    (Work progressing in the background)

 
In Progress:


  • 2022-07-24: Mallory Knodel and Mirja Kühlewind to draft a 
    document outlining the architectural principles that the IAB 
    thinks are important and need to be understood when 
    considering Internet governance. 

  • 2022-11-06: Jari Arkko to update draft-arkko-iab-data-
    minimization-principle based on the IAB discussion at IETF 
    115. 


  • 2022-12-07: Cindy Morgan to send a message to arch-d list 
    about possible adoption of draft-arkko-iab-data-minimization-
    principle once Jari Arkko updates the document and confirms 
    that the message is ready to go.


  • 2023-03-01: Cullen Jennings, Chris Wood, and Qin Wu to work on 
    a proposal for an IAB workshop on identity management.


  • 2023-03-08: Mallory Knodel to draft an outline for an IAB 
    response to EU consultation on "sender-pays."


  • 2023-04-12: All IAB to provide input on the slides for the 
    IETF presentation at RIPE 86 Rotterdam.




1.5. IAB Document Status Update


  Datatracker: https://datatracker.ietf.org/stream/iab/


    • draft-arkko-iab-data-minimization-principle-04
      I-D Exists, IAB stream 
      IAB Shepherd: Mirja Kühlewind


    • draft-iab-m-ten-workshop-00
      I-D Exists, IAB stream 
      IAB Shepherd: Mirja Kühlewind
        
    • draft-iab-path-signals-collaboration-03
      Sent to the RFC Editor: Informational 
      IAB Shepherd: N/A


    • draft-iab-privacy-partitioning-01
      Active IAB Document
      IAB Shepherd: David Schinazi


    • draft-iab-protocol-maintenance-12
      Sent to the RFC Editor: Informational 
      IAB Shepherd: Tommy Pauly        


    • draft-iab-ws-environmental-impacts-report-01
      Active IAB Document
      IAB Shepherd: Wes Hardaker


    • A Vision Statement for the Internet (Mallory, Mirja)



1.6. WG Chartering in Progress (Initial Charters Only)  


  Datatracker: https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/chartering/        


    • CONGestion RESponse and Signaling (CONGRESS)
      Internal Review (IESG Telechat: 2023-03-16)
      IAB Reviewer: Mallory Knodel


    • Coming soon: Network Inventory Modeling Base YANG (NIMBY) 
      and BPF/eBPF (BPF)




2. IETF Presentation at RIPE 86


  An IETF presentation at RIPE 86 was not accepted for their  
  plenary, but RIPE has offered a BOF slot. The IAB discussed 
  potential topics and goals for a BOF session; all were in 
  agreement that the IETF should use this BOF slot, and 
  discussions will continue to plan the content and approach of 
  the presentation. The IAB and IESG will have planning time for 
  this at the upcoming retreat.




3. ICANN Board Listening Session  


  Lars Eggert has drafted some initial notes and shared them with 
  the IAB and IESG. All IAB and IESG members should review the 
  document and plan to discuss it again at next week's regular 
  calls. 


  The IAB discussed how this feedback should be communicated to   
  the IETF community. The IAB agreed to send an email about this 
  to IETF-Announce shortly after the listening session.


  Cindy Morgan will add the listening session to the IAB and IESG 
  calendars. 



4. IAB response to the EC on "The future of the electronic 
   communications sector and its infrastructure" 


  The draft response remains in progress.




5. IETF-3GPP Coordination Group 


  Tommy Pauly suggested the creation of a new Administrative 
  Support Group for IETF-3GPP Coordination, similar to the already 
  existing IETF-IEEE 802 Coordination group. Description text has 
  already been reviewed by the IAB. The IAB approved the new 
  Administrative Support Group, and Cindy Morgan will set it up in 
  the Datatracker.




6. Possible Technical Discussion on Censorship Circumvention


  The IAB discussed a possible technical discussion on censorship 
  circumvention and the hot topics in the censorship space. 
  Mallory Knodel will try to organize a technical discussion for 
  31 May and invite speakers.




7. Metaverse Standards Forum Update


  Qin Wu sent an email to the IAB with an update on the Metaverse 
  Standards Forum. Mirja Kühlewind asked if the IAB wanted to  
  invite someone from the Metaverse Standards Forum to an upcoming 
  IAB meeting to discuss how this relates to IETF work. The IAB 
  concluded that more internal discussion is needed first.




8. Next IAB Meeting


  The Next IAB Meeting is scheduled for 2023-04-26.